How big a factor was Roy Jones Steroid use?

[moofo]

to name a few..

If you notice the guy insulted me first.
I was just repaying his kindness.
And his reply was not worth anything.
Like your ****ing whining now...

[johnm is...]

If you notice the guy insulted me first.
I was just repaying his kindness.
And his reply was not worth anything.
Like your ****ing whining now...

LOL. I'd toy around with you a bit, but I try not to pick on the mentally challenged. Stick to insulting children, tiger.

[Ell]

GunStar some of your posts have had me laughing I must admit, you're a hypocrit, you talk about talking out of your ass and so far that's all you've done. Lets analyse some of the things you've said so far;

Firstly you said that Steroids don't improve your power, of course steroids will improve your power, as Gavin....(can't remember the numbers) said, many sprinters who have been caught had improved their times using steroids, yes sprintings about speed but it's also about power. Steroids DO improve power. Your second funny statement, which really did make me chuckle was that 90% of todays Heavyweights were on steroids...I would love to see one bit of evidence that proves this statement. Its not like boxers have to undergo drug tests and that...oh no wait, they do. You also said that Heavyweights don't have great stamina, now don't get me wrong a lot of Heavyweights aren't the most aesthetically pleasing athletes but they are still well conditioned and have great stamina. You make 12 rounds of boxing sound like a walk in the park but believe it or not, you have to be in tremendous shape to go 12 rounds at the top level of the sport. The comparison of the size of Heavyweights past and present was ******, have you ever thought we maybe know more about training and nutrition now than heavyweights of the past knew. I also don't understand how you can compare their staminas. Then another comedy statement from yourself was that steroids don't improve stamina (even though you said earlier that they probably do) and that there's no scientific evidence to suggest so. Sorry but there is evidence that proves steroids improve stamina, lets take cycling for example, more specifically road cycling and road cycling is all about stamina. Now there have been many champions and ex-champions that have admitted to taking steroids and they admitted it improved their career's. But there have also been scientific experiments on steroids and it has been proven that in cycling, the use of steroids can improve a cyclists performance by up to 25%. Your last post was classic, I'll even quote it "I'm not talking out of my ass here like some people." when from what I see that's all you've done. Go read up on stuff before you float bull**** around at every possibility.

As a fan of boxing I also couldn't let Queensdawg comment go, as you stated you don't believe the rumours that Roy Jones Jr took steroids which is fair enough even though the evidence is stacked against him. But your next sentence pissed me off as a fan of boxing, you said "if it was true, i dont think it has any effect on his legacy. i dont care really.. " So you're saying that if he had intentionally cheated it doesn't matter and that it doesn't affect his legacy, of course it affects his legacy. If he intentionally cheated, he undermimed the sport of boxing, showed no respect for boxing and worst of all no regard for any of his opponents or their safety. You then tried to put the blame on people from the UK (pretty random) when its not people from the UK that don't take kindly to a drug cheat, it's lovers of sport that don't take kindly to a drug cheat. I honestly don't know how you can call yourself a fan of boxing when you say it doesn't matter if a fighter has or hasn't taken drugs.

[moofo]

LOL. I'd toy around with you a bit, but I try not to pick on the mentally challenged. Stick to insulting children, tiger.

The only thing you toy with pal is your fella's anus.
Believe me I am not as ****** as most posters I encounter here.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

So you're trying to say that Ben Johnson didn't benefit at all from taking steroids? And if it helped him with the explosive quickness needed to break the world record in the 100m, you honestly don't think it helps in boxing at all? BTW, I love it when you call me a ******. When you start calling me a genius, then, I will start to worry.

That's a whole different sport, ******. Did it help Vargas against DLH?

[moofo]

That's a whole different sport, ******. Did it help Vargas against DLH?

Perhaps he didn't win.
But you cannot ignore that he may have performed better still than he would have without the roids.
Obviously you will have fighters who face opponents who even with steroids are still not going to have a big enough advantage to win.

[Dynamite Kid]

That's a whole different sport, ******. Did it help Vargas against DLH?

yeah good point clearly they are ineffective maybe that is why certain fighters risk getting banned for life cause the benefits u reap from taking them are so minimal

[TheGreatA]

The steroids certainly helped Vargas against De La Hoya, the fight was even until the knockout. Roids didn't help his chin though.

[Karlos81]

It would give him more speed and more muscle mass.

Benn Johnston, Marion Jones anyone?

Over-rated cheat, Roy Jones never faced any quality after Toney and he was peobably on HGH after that as at the time doping people said Jones refused to let anyone in to watch him take a urine sample.

Reason, it was very probably switched. After Toney he faced school teachers, part time bouncers and binmen when he did step up lost.

[GTL]

GunStar some of your posts have had me laughing I must admit, you're a hypocrit, you talk about talking out of your ass and so far that's all you've done. Lets analyse some of the things you've said so far;

Firstly you said that Steroids don't improve your power, of course steroids will improve your power, as Gavin....(can't remember the numbers) said, many sprinters who have been caught had improved their times using steroids, yes sprintings about speed but it's also about power. Steroids DO improve power. Your second funny statement, which really did make me chuckle was that 90% of todays Heavyweights were on steroids...I would love to see one bit of evidence that proves this statement. Its not like boxers have to undergo drug tests and that...oh no wait, they do. You also said that Heavyweights don't have great stamina, now don't get me wrong a lot of Heavyweights aren't the most aesthetically pleasing athletes but they are still well conditioned and have great stamina. You make 12 rounds of boxing sound like a walk in the park but believe it or not, you have to be in tremendous shape to go 12 rounds at the top level of the sport. The comparison of the size of Heavyweights past and present was ******, have you ever thought we maybe know more about training and nutrition now than heavyweights of the past knew. I also don't understand how you can compare their staminas. Then another comedy statement from yourself was that steroids don't improve stamina (even though you said earlier that they probably do) and that there's no scientific evidence to suggest so. Sorry but there is evidence that proves steroids improve stamina, lets take cycling for example, more specifically road cycling and road cycling is all about stamina. Now there have been many champions and ex-champions that have admitted to taking steroids and they admitted it improved their career's. But there have also been scientific experiments on steroids and it has been proven that in cycling, the use of steroids can improve a cyclists performance by up to 25%. Your last post was classic, I'll even quote it "I'm not talking out of my ass here like some people." when from what I see that's all you've done. Go read up on stuff before you float bull**** around at every possibility.

As a fan of boxing I also couldn't let Queensdawg comment go, as you stated you don't believe the rumours that Roy Jones Jr took steroids which is fair enough even though the evidence is stacked against him. But your next sentence pissed me off as a fan of boxing, you said "if it was true, i dont think it has any effect on his legacy. i dont care really.. " So you're saying that if he had intentionally cheated it doesn't matter and that it doesn't affect his legacy, of course it affects his legacy. If he intentionally cheated, he undermimed the sport of boxing, showed no respect for boxing and worst of all no regard for any of his opponents or their safety. You then tried to put the blame on people from the UK (pretty random) when its not people from the UK that don't take kindly to a drug cheat, it's lovers of sport that don't take kindly to a drug cheat. I honestly don't know how you can call yourself a fan of boxing when you say it doesn't matter if a fighter has or hasn't taken drugs.

many athletes use these drugs man...
just to inform you, the steroid epidemic is in the UK right now.. thats where its the biggest as of now.. reguardless of the MLB problems..

i dont believe the steroids tarnished his legacy at all man.. thats my opinion.. roy wouldve swashed every1 either way..

this will be my final post in this thread..