Seriously...who believes RJJ was ever Heavyweight Champ?

[slicksouthpaw16]

Wow, so now you're going as far as talkin about all-time greats when talking about Ruiz to disprove my point. This just show how bad the heavyweight divison is. Ruiz defeated Rahman, who knocked out Lewis. Ruiz got robbed against the towering Valuev.

Again, Ruiz right now can still compete with any heavyweight out there. And as i've stated earlier, we dont' know what could have happened between Lewis and Jones.

So Lennox Lewis isn't an all time great? Ruiz is a decent fighter, buy Roy chose him because he knew that he was the weakest out of the 4 champions. Would you favor Roy to beat Holyfield, Lennox, or any of the Klitschko brothers?

I understand that you are a fan, but sometimes you need to look past that and face the truth.

[THE REED]

see im not arguin any of that other stuff slick...

all im sayin is.. he should be regarded as A former HW champion

nothing more... nothing less

[landmine950]

Htown

Are you saying that Ruiz ISN'T dog****?

[slicksouthpaw16]

see im not arguin any of that other stuff slick...

all im sayin is.. he should be regarded as A former HW champion

nothing more... nothing less

and that he is, but this Vladimir guy says that he would beat Lennox and keep trying to pump Ruiz up like he is some great fighter. Im a fan of Chad Dawson, but would i favor him to beat Sam Peter? Nope

[Mr. Ryan]

Again, do i agree with some of the stuff you said? YES but if we would go to the actual rule book and see if our opinions are right, the answer would be NO. It would be no, because this entire thing you just wrote is all OPINION. it doesnt mean **** when we go by the written law. Point, Blank, Period. The highlighted part says it all, its an opinion.
And to be a CHAMPION you MUST have a belt.

This isn't the Special Olympics, where everyone gets a gold medal. This is big time boxing. Only one guy can be the best.

Can I ask you a question? Is the NABF or NABA Heavyweight titlist as valid a champion as the WBA or WBC? If not, then why is that?

Feel the way you want, you're entitled. I just will not look at more than one guy as being the champion unless he has a serious claim. These belts have crowded people's minds and confused a lot of people.

[My Name Is...]

Are you saying that Ruiz ISN'T dog****?

yes.he actually had a decent career. he is and was better than Liakovich, briggs, maskaev, and if you look at the FACTS he was and is better than Hasim Rahman former HW champ. So how can people say he is the worst HW champ ever?

and thats cuz I hate Ruiz. But I always give credit where credit is due.

[Vladimir303]

So Lennox Lewis isn't an all time great? Ruiz is a decent fighter, buy Roy chose him because he knew that he was the weakest out of the 4 champions. Would you favor Roy to beat Holyfield, Lennox, or any of the Klitschko brothers?

I understand that you are a fan, but sometimes you need to look past that and face the truth.

1. It was his first fight at heavyweight, not a bad win.

2. He would beat Holyfield in much better fashion then Lewis did, styles make fights.

3. I would pick Lewis and the Klitschko's to beat him but like I said anything can happen. Prior to losing to Tarver, anything was possible with Roy.

4. I'm not really a fan of his, I just can't stand the disprespect towards Roy. Until some other former middleweight steps up and beats any heavyweight title holder, Roy's accomplishment remains great.

[THE REED]

and that he is, but this Vladimir guy says that he would beat Lennox and keep trying to pump Ruiz up like he is some great fighter. Im a fan of Chad Dawson, but would i favor him to beat Sam Peter? Nope

well yall can argue about that all say.. i for one... would not.

[slicksouthpaw16]

See REE****YALUSS is reasonable and unbiased and thats good. He is Jones fan but he doesn't pick him to beat all time great heavyweights and boost up an average fighter like he is great, unlike Mr.Vladimir.

[My Name Is...]

This isn't the Special Olympics, where everyone gets a gold medal. This is big time boxing. Only one guy can be the best.

Can I ask you a question? Is the NABF or NABA Heavyweight titlist as valid a champion as the WBA or WBC? If not, then why is that?

Feel the way you want, you're entitled. I just will not look at more than one guy as being the champion unless he has a serious claim. These belts have crowded people's minds and confused a lot of people.

there are alot of guys that I consider the True champ regardless of belts, like Juan Diaz. BUT is he THE CHAMP at his weight class, no becuase there are more major belts out there.