Which active fighter has a better legacy than Mayweather?

[JC Warrior]

/\ Great point. Floyd is at the pinnacle right now and whatever he does next will probably cement his legacy on an upswing or a downswing. The only thing I'd say is certain about Floyd's legacy right now is that it hangs in the balance entirely dependant on what he does next.

[Fox McCloud]

Holyfield, Toney, Hopkins, Jones Jr, Oscar, Trinidad, Pacquiao, Calzaghe, and Wlad Klitschko.

I know Wlad's inclusion might raise some questions but he's beaten solid competition in the most important division even if he hasn't always been spectacular doing it.

Actually you can add Calzaghe's inclusion to things that raise serious questions about what you are thinking.

The heavyweight division sucks... just like the middleweight division did when Hopkins was in it. Just because they beat all-comers doesn't mean they get a 100% A on their grade card.

Calzaghe's biggest wins: Eubank, Lacy, Kessler

vs.

Mayweather's biggest wins: Corrales, Castillo, Hatton

Do you really have Calzaghe ahead of Mayweather on your P4P list? Because that is effectively what you are saying by claiming he has a better legacy going, since they are both undefeated.

[Silencers]

DLH
Jones Jr.
Holyfield
Tito (If he is considered active.)

[NeXt In Line]

Actually you can add Calzaghe's inclusion to things that raise serious questions about what you are thinking.

The heavyweight division sucks... just like the middleweight division did when Hopkins was in it. Just because they beat all-comers doesn't mean they get a 100% A on their grade card.

Calzaghe's biggest wins: Eubank, Lacy, Kessler

vs.

Mayweather's biggest wins: Corrales, Castillo, Hatton

Do you really have Calzaghe ahead of Mayweather on your P4P list? Because that is effectively what you are saying by claiming he has a better legacy going, since they are both undefeated.

You think that Jose Luis Castillo was a bigger win for Floyd than Oscar De La Hoya? That logic's a bit mangled if you ask me. Oscar (even at this stage of his career) ****s on most boxers' accomplishments/ability, ESPECIALLY for somebody who fights once a year.

[Fox McCloud]

You think that Jose Luis Castillo was a bigger win for Floyd than Oscar De La Hoya? That logic's a bit mangled if you ask me. Oscar (even at this stage of his career) ****s on most boxers' accomplishments/ability, ESPECIALLY for somebody who fights once a year.

You consider how big someone's win over someone is based on how good their entire career is, not where they are at that point in their career?

So you give Roy Jones Jr. credit for beating a P4P #1 Bernard Hopkins who made 20 middleweight defenses, even though he beat him before any of that happened?

Or do you give Grover Wiley credit for beating P4P #1 Julio Cesar Chavez who was 89-0, even though Chavez was ancient at that point and was dropping fights right and left?

Castillo was the linear lightweight champion of the world after beating Stevie Johnston.

Oscar had just come off a gift from Sturm, a KO loss to Hopkins, and then a dominating performance over Mayorga.

Dominating performances are good, but Ricardo Mayorga isn't exaclty an opponent I would be eager to brag about.

I just think at the stages they were at in their careers when they fought Floyd, I think Castillo is the better opponent to be honest.

[verbz]

oscar de la hoya definately. never ducked any1, has always fought the best out there

[mitch12]

well most people where i live dont even know who he is so not a great legacy to be honest

[Unseen]

Oscar
Trinidad
Wright
Tarver

that does enough IMO

You cant use the "Welterweight" excuse on Hopkins because can Trinidad and Wright even make 160 any more? I'm sure Wright can but not Trinidad, and Trinidad couldn't have made Welterweight when he fought Hopkins, their body growed into that weight.

Wright ranked P4P #2 when Hopkins beat him, Tarver ranked P4P #9.

Bernard himself has been P4P #1 for some time, with 20 title defenses.

AND HES DOING EVERYTHING NOW AT THE AGE OF ****ING 43, CONSIDER THAT BITCHES!

maybe they grew into that weight, but that don't mean they still belong there. if hopkins fought people that started at middleweight then okay yeah. oscar, tito and winky are good anmes but no way are they elite at that weight. they made their names at lower weights.

[kerrminator]

Floyd has the best imo. Regarded p4p#1 by most and 5 weight champion undefeated, if he fights and beats Cotto then no-one could argue with his greatness (although I reckon PBF v Cotto is a 50/50 fight)

[Bhopreign]

William Joppy.
Felix Trinidad (the high point in the resume).
Welterweight Oscar De La Hoya.
One-hit wonder Tarver.
Itty-bitty Wright.

That doesn't look that awesome to me.

Wow now Wright is itty-bitty, never heard him called itty-bitty when he fought Taylor, funny how people see things. Its not about weight anyway, its about skills, nobody said itty-bitty Floyd who started at super featherweight when he fought natural welters and fought Oscar, but all you heard was old Oscar, funny.