Better Inside Fighter: Cotto vs Mayweather (poll) Credit to Piggu

[letsgobrady]

ricky hatton is a bum and floyd has become to defensive i think any one of the top 5 welters have a chance at beating floyd now.

[THE REED]

ricky hatton is a bum and floyd has become to defensive i think any one of the top 5 welters have a chance at beating floyd now.

yeah... or not...

[NYCHeavyHitz]

One question.... Castillo going to the body for 12 rounds... and what did it do?

he Still lost.

Mayweather on post-De La Hoya fight, "Just look at the punch stats"

Well lookit the punch stats on the Castillo fight.

Cotto still wayyyy better than Castillo.

[slicksouthpaw16]

I dont need to learn ****. You need to know that Hatton through his career was ALWAYS heavier on fight night than Mayweather ever was on fight night. It is not surprising at all, since Mayweather started at 130, and Hatton at 140. Mayweather's frame is so bih that he could make 130 until age 24 (almost 25).Malignaggi and Quintana are simply not on the same planet as Mayweather.

Not only do you need to know the fighters natural size, but you also need to learn about boxing and how it works. Just look at thier frames. Hatton weighing more on fight night means that he is natural bigger? Its like you are totally lost. Also look at the weigh in pictures, not only was Maweather taller, but he was wider and clearly had more bulk to him. I was not comparing Quintana or Malinagggi to Mayweather, i was proving that he knows how to deal with those good movers and he does throw enough punches. They are also both currently champions.

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EDIT: Cotto more technically polished than Castillo? Castillo in his prime, was one of the best active inside fighters of that time, together with Hopkins, and Toney.

Hes alot better technically polished than Castillio. He has the full arsenal and his speed is underated. Castillio was not a pressure fighter but he made the ajustments for the Mayweather fight and i see Cotto doing the same thing. Why? because again, hes not one demensional and can adjust to his opponents style. He would bring smart pressure and take advantage as Floyd was in that defensive shell. Not only has Cotto devoloped good pure boxing skill, but he can also fight going back. You are clearly underating Cotto's inside fighting and pressure and act as if Mayweather out classes him or something, which is just laughable.

Mayweather is not vulnerable to right hands at all. If anything that's the easiest punch to take away with his defense. the punches we have seen landing flush on him have been looping lefts.

Read my post, i said that he was vulerable to them when he is in that defensive shell. Look at how when he was trying to block the left to the body, Oscar was able to hit him with his right hand becaue Mayweather was focused more on blocking the body shot.

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Castillo never got close to hurting a 25 year old Mayweather (and he defintiely did not get to his body "at will"... LOL), who came in the ring weighing less than 140 pounds. Mayweather NEVER showed.
he felt any of the few bodyshots he's taken from anyone, again good luck with that

Watch at how Castillio was able to get to his body easily as Mayweather layed on the ropes. The body shots that Castillio hit him with had an effect because Castillio definatlet swept the last few rounds on my card.

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Then, you are not putting your money where your keyboard is... not so confindent, huh?

Im very confident but if anyone is giving the odds, then its going to be you. Mayweather will be the betting favorite and it would be foolish for me to give you the odds.

[THE REED]

Castillio was not a pressure fighter

I stopped reading... right there...


I still got love for ya though

[slicksouthpaw16]

I stopped reading... right there...


I still got love for ya though

Lol not a pressure fighter before the Castillio/Mayweather fight

[RageX]

Hes alot better technically polished than Castillio. He has the full arsenal and his speed is underated. Castillio was not a pressure fighter but he made the ajustments for the Mayweather fight and i see Cotto doing the same thing. Why? because again, hes not one demensional and can adjust to his opponents style. He would bring smart pressure and take advantage as Floyd was in that defensive shell. Not only has Cotto devoloped good pure boxing skill, but he can also fight going back. You are clearly underating Cotto's inside fighting and pressure and act as if Mayweather out classes him or something, which is just laughable.

[RageX]

I stopped reading... right there...


I still got love for ya though

Yeah that part had me cracking up big time.

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Not only do you need to know the fighters natural size, but you also need to learn about boxing and how it works. Just look at thier frames. Hatton weighing more on fight night means that he is natural bigger? Its like you are totally lost. Also look at the weigh in pictures, not only was Maweather taller, but he was wider and clearly had more bulk to him. I was not comparing Quintana or Malinagggi to Mayweather, i was proving that he knows how to deal with those good movers and he does throw enough punches. They are also both currently champions.

You need to learn a lot about physics and how when you come in at OVER 150 for 10 years, you are bigger than a guy who came in UNDER 140 for 5 years and UNDER 150 for 5 years. Funny that while unable to see this, you would tell someone else they are totally lost.

Quintana and Malignaggi are not champions, they are holding a piece of paper. Mayweather, Hatton, Pavlik, Vazquez are champions.

Mayweather is not only on a different planet than Quintana or Malignaggi, he also does not fight the same style.

Hes alot better technically polished than Castillio. He has the full arsenal and his speed is underated. Castillio was not a pressure fighter but he made the ajustments for the Mayweather fight and i see Cotto doing the same thing. Why? because again, hes not one demensional and can adjust to his opponents style. He would bring smart pressure and take advantage as Floyd was in that defensive shell. Not only has Cotto devoloped good pure boxing skill, but he can also fight going back. You are clearly underating Cotto's inside fighting and pressure and act as if Mayweather out classes him or something, which is just laughable.

Castillo was not a pressure fighter? JC's sparring partner, who pretty much molded his style after him is not a pressure fighter? LOL

Castillo is a better inside fighter than Cotto, Cotto has a lot of other qualities but he is not as smooth as versatile Castillo was on the inside.

Mayweather does outclass Cotto. Cotto chance at winning this fight is in the 10 extra pounds he has. If they were the same size, we would not even be talking about it.

Hatton showed side movements and angles all through his career, and did not seem to have ever had any of it last December, and it's the case for all of Mayweather's opponents that they dont look nearly close to their best... so get ready to see some of Cotto's goods vanish when he steps in the ring with Mayweather. Dont expect Cotto to fight going back, but expect him to fail big time if he does that.

Read my post, i said that he was vulnerable to them when he is in that defensive shell. Look at how when he was trying to block the left to the body, Oscar was able to hit him with his right hand because Mayweather was focused more on blocking the body shot.

Against Hatton and De La Hoya, Mayweather got hit with right hands (which did not hurt him), because his stance, and movement was set to take away their left hooks. Why do you think he would need to do that with Cotto?
Also Cotto has slower hands than Oscar or Hatton.

Watch at how Castillio was able to get to his body easily as Mayweather layed on the ropes. The body shots that Castillio hit him with had an effect because Castillio definatlet swept the last few rounds on my card.

LOL... you need to learn something about logic.

It's not that the punches have effect, because of how you scored them.

It's more like you score them, based on how much effect you think they have.

And I seen nothing easy in Castillo's landing shots. It's boxing... people get hit, it's a testament to Mayweather's defense that you are so amazed by Castillo landing some punches on him.

Also, the fact that he did not stop, he did not slow down should tell you something about how Mayweather takes it to the body.

Im very confident but if anyone is giving the odds, then its going to be you. Mayweather will be the betting favorite and it would be foolish for me to give you the odds.

See, if you were confident, it would mean that you think Cotto is more likely to win than Mayweather... It does not seem like it's the case, because otherwise you would take my profitable (for your confident beliefs) bet.

[THE REED]

You need to learn a lot about physics and how when you come in at OVER 150 for 10 years, you are bigger than a guy who came in UNDER 140 for 5 years and UNDER 150 for 5 years. Funny that while unable to see this, you would tell someone else they are totally lost.

Quintana and Malignaggi are not champions, they are holding a piece of paper. Mayweather, Hatton, Pavlik, Vazquez are champions.

Mayweather is not only on a different planet than Quintana or Malignaggi, he also does not fight the same style.



Castillo was not a pressure fighter? JC's sparring partner, who pretty much molded his style after him is not a pressure fighter? LOL

Castillo is a better inside fighter than Cotto, Cotto has a lot of other qualities but he is not as smooth as versatile Castillo was on the inside.

Mayweather does outclass Cotto. Cotto chance at winning this fight is in the 10 extra pounds he has. If they were the same size, we would not even be talking about it.

Hatton showed side movements and angles all through his career, and did not seem to have ever had any of it last December, and it's the case for all of Mayweather's opponents that they dont look nearly close to their best... so get ready to see some of Cotto's goods vanish when he steps in the ring with Mayweather. Dont expect Cotto to fight going back, but expect him to fail big time if he does that.



Against Hatton and De La Hoya, Mayweather got hit with right hands (which did not hurt him), because his stance, and movement was set to take away their left hooks. Why do you think he would need to do that with Cotto?
Also Cotto has slower hands than Oscar or Hatton.



LOL... you need to learn something about logic.

It's not that the punches have effect, because of how you scored them.

It's more like you score them, based on how much effect you think they have.

And I seen nothing easy in Castillo's landing shots. It's boxing... people get hit, it's a testament to Mayweather's defense that you are so amazed by Castillo landing some punches on him.

Also, the fact that he did not stop, he did not slow down should tell you something about how Mayweather takes it to the body.



See, if you were confident, it would mean that you think Cotto is more likely to win than Mayweather... It does not seem like it's the case, because otherwise you would take my profitable (for your confident beliefs) bet.

You cant say thats not a reasonable argument