Dan goosen speaking on Williams/Cotto/Margarito/Cintron.

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  • crillz
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    #31
    Originally posted by raycorey
    Trust me I really dont like your double standard on this one, If a fight doesnt happen so we should all blame one person? Trust me am a brit and i remember Mayweather calling out Naz but Naz was making major money and everybody was calling him out including Morales,Barrera and Marquez...Naz had control over who he fights..He could have fought Mayweather at 130 if he wanted to but the fight never materialise for one reason or another.

    You made it sound like a 22 year old Mayweather has to fight Marquee fight all the time because he fought Emmanuel Burton?? LOL, I really dont care for Mayweather but i would defend him when i feel people are been hypocritical.

    I have questioned the reason why Cotto would fight Gomez but also understand but you seem to want to defend Cotto and critise mayweather for them doing the samething so on that note i wouldnt even try to continue this discussion.
    hold up hold up don't make it seem like I don't like Floyd, I'm talking Boxing here yo and some fights would have been better than others but I have nothing but the utmost love and respect for Floyd it's just I don't like a lot of what I'm hearing my damn self..

    you could question Cotto fighting Gomez all you want but you know what then I could name up some names that weren't on Floyd's level too, you see the hipocrasy? like when I say it about Cotto then I'm dissing Floyd when Floyd did the same exact **** too.

    you made it into this whole argument when all I said was Floyd didn't fight ALL of the TOP guys in those divisions, he fought a respectable amount, enough to credit him for a while and yes as the pound for pound best but he didn't fight them ALL which was my ONLY argument at first..

    then I bring Cotto into the mix and say how I feel Cotto just moved up and up and up in class while Floyd hasn't in his last 3 (including the ODLH rematch) ya feel me, how Shane was a better fighter than Oscar and Cotto get's ****ted on for winning a Unanimous decision against someone in Shane who was beating good opposition and was at his better weight and still had more left than Oscar while Floyd gets praised for his SPLIT Decision against Oscar who lost to Shane twice, was battle scarred by bigger men and was just overall not the same and had lost 2 of 5 and wasn't pound for pound best since 2003, you get the hipcoritical **** I'm talking about now?

    and as for your Naz comment, so what because Floyd couldn't get Naz he just bounces and gets out of dodge like that? Naz probably lost to Barrera but then Barrera came up so why not fight him? ya see you trying to defend Mayweather and I ain't trying to defend Cotto yet you accuse me of that when really YOU defending Floyd, I'm saying what he did, these are facts and I ain't saying he ain't the best I'm just saying he didn't fight ALL of the TOP guys in those weights which is true like it or not.

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    • crillz
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      #32
      now nobody got nothing to say right? when the point been made and ya see what I was really talking about *****z want to get all quiet right? thas what be pissing me off about ya yo ya mad quick to object but when that objection is wrong ya don't stop and be like yo you was right ya keep it moving ignore the ****..

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      • Allucard
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        #33
        All the people making ****** threads should read this. Really boxing is not for kids... MAkes me sad seeing kids saying **** like "floyd needs 2 or 3 competitive fights" and then they are ok with cotto taking a break (becase yeah cotto at 27 is an old man).

        I wish Cotto never gets his chance and loses to Williams. Nothing against Cotto, its' just his fans. They all seem racist towards floyd mayweather not giving the older man his respect although he's known as the best of our era.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Allucard
          All the people making ****** threads should read this. Really boxing is not for kids... MAkes me sad seeing kids saying **** like "floyd needs 2 or 3 competitive fights" and then they are ok with cotto taking a break (becase yeah cotto at 27 is an old man).

          I wish Cotto never gets his chance and loses to Williams. Nothing against Cotto, its' just his fans. They all seem racist towards floyd mayweather not giving the older man his respect although he's known as the best of our era.
          he gets his respect from me but then again so does every OTHER fighter, they get their JUST DUE, Cotto deserves respect too, don't get me wrong I AGREE Floyd is the best pound for pound but I'm also telling you that Cotto is a menace in his own right.. you can't return the hate that the people you talking about give to Mayweather to Cotto, it doesn't right their wrong ya feel me.. realistically speaking I respect Floyd, 100% but I call **** the way it is. I have no problem with Floyd taking a lesser opponent just like I have no problem with Cotto doing it because the point it they don't ALWAYS do that and they are BUSY so it works out but when one gets bashed and the other doesn't that becomes hiposcrasy and I ain't going to diss Floyd or Cotto I'm going to diss the person who is saying that horse ****.. I feel ya all around point though.

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          • Allucard
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            #35
            Originally posted by juanroldan
            Cotto deserves to fight Floyd. Williams deserves to fight Cotto.

            who deserves their shot first? Cotto does. He's more accomplished, more suceesfful and more popular, and paid his dues longer (taken more tougher fights) than Williams.

            i think it's obvious you will find most everyone who wants Williams to fight Cotto first is either a Williams promoter, floyd nuthugger or a paid or unpaid floyd shill.
            It's an age thing man. Floy is not dumb. He won't fight Cotto then Williams to do his haters a favor. Let the young lions decide a contender, then they fight.
            Almost seems like you are afraid Cotto loses to Williams.

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            • Allucard
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              #36
              Originally posted by crillz
              he gets his respect from me but then again so does every OTHER fighter, they get their JUST DUE, Cotto deserves respect too, don't get me wrong I AGREE Floyd is the best pound for pound but I'm also telling you that Cotto is a menace in his own right.. you can't return the hate that the people you talking about give to Mayweather to Cotto, it doesn't right their wrong ya feel me.. realistically speaking I respect Floyd, 100% but I call **** the way it is. I have no problem with Floyd taking a lesser opponent just like I have no problem with Cotto doing it because the point it they don't ALWAYS do that and they are BUSY so it works out but when one gets bashed and the other doesn't that becomes hiposcrasy and I ain't going to diss Floyd or Cotto I'm going to diss the person who is saying that horse ****.. I feel ya all around point though.
              PLease, are you comparing Gomez to De la Hoya?

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                #37
                Originally posted by DLT
                Goosen is right again. I cant believe some of the hypocrites on here dont see that. It should definatly be Cotto vs Williams to get to Floyd. Everyone was calling Margarito the most feared man on the planet and Williams beat him. Williams is much closer to Cotto then Cotto is to Floyd. Floyd is a 5 division champ with 6 titles and is regarded as the P4P best. On top of that he is by far the biggest name in the sport right now besides Oscar.

                People get so upset when Floyd talks about how something is not a big enough name or a big enough money fight but then they make an excuse for Cotto-Williams by saying the same exact thing. Its a joke
                dude shut the **** up with your crying already. what has Paul Williams done so far to earn a shot at Cotto or even Floyd at this point? what other welter is more deserving of a fight with PBF than Cotto? The only other people who agree with you are severe PBF stans. Why is that?

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                • crillz
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Allucard
                  PLease, are you comparing Gomez to De la Hoya?
                  where in the **** did you get such a ******, dumb mother****er thought like that? ..If it was in reference to the "lesser opponent" comment no it was in comparison to older washed up dudes like Mitchell and guys who didn't belong in there with him like Burton. you an idiot if you pulled Oscar out of that and couldn't connect the dots from there.

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                  • crillz
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Allucard
                    It's an age thing man. Floy is not dumb. He won't fight Cotto then Williams to do his haters a favor. Let the young lions decide a contender, then they fight.
                    Almost seems like you are afraid Cotto loses to Williams.
                    yo genius Floyd is only 30 or 31, wtf you talking about??

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                      #40
                      Cotto is well ahead of Williams in the queue to fight Pretty Boy Floyd.

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