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  • Horus
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    #51
    Originally posted by Horus
    Cotto is obivously making smart Business Decision.....

    He is taking safe measures to protect he chances of Fighting Mayweather


    because if he fight a Young Prime Active Fighter and Loses...

    Kiss the Mayweather fight Goodbye....






    Originally posted by 2501
    Are you saying that Antonio Margarito is not dangerous? You've said some pretty ****ing ****** things on this forum, but saying that Antonio Margarito isnt young or in his prime AND not dangerous may just top it all.

    So Cotto and Margarito already fought...??

    When?
    Where?
    hOW?

    You see how ****** you are.....!!

    You cant say that that are goin to fight, because they were going to fight last time and what happen..??

    ALL YOU CAN do is wait untill they fight and then speak on it...

    But to give Cotto credit for fighting Margarito when they havent even fought yet,,

    Shows your intelligence

    LMAO @ your ******ity

    Like I said before

    Cotto is obivously making smart Business Decision.....

    He is taking safe measures to protect he chances of Fighting Mayweather


    because if he fight a Young Prime Active Fighter and Loses...

    Kiss the Mayweather fight Goodbye....
    Last edited by Horus; 02-06-2008, 02:29 PM.

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    • RageX
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      #52
      Originally posted by 2501
      Are you saying that Antonio Margarito is not dangerous? You've said some pretty ****ing ****** things on this forum, but saying that Antonio Margarito isnt young or in his prime AND not dangerous may just top it all.
      I think he is saying Margarito would beat Cotto if not I think he means whats the point when Margarito already lost to Williams, why choose Margarito over Williams?

      I think Paul will make a statement after his win over Quintana...AND i also think Cotto deserves the Mayweather fight more than Williams althought Williams is more of a threat.

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        #53
        Originally posted by raycorey

        If thats the case then i truely do not agree with that, Cotto deserves to fight Mayweather just as Williams deserve to fight Cotto ahead of Williams
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        Look, to be honest, ALL ranked Welters deserve a shot at each other. Both sides need to be honest and admit that. Thats why they are ranked. Williams should not be criticized for calling out Cotto. Thats how you make your career right? At the same time, Cotto should be treated the same. Cotto to this point, has done enough to be the person next in line to fight Mayweather. We arent talking about who will bring in the most money, WE as the fans should not concern ourselves with that because WE as the fans want to see the best quality fights. Not the fights that will make the most financial sense for another grown man. Cotto should be fighting Mayweather next, not De La Hoya. Cotto shouldnt have to clean out the whole division including Williams to earn his shot. Whether certain posters here will admit it or not, Cotto is also a star in the division. He has gotten to the point in his career where other fighters need to earn the right to fight HIM as well. Just like he had to earn the right to fight Mosley and Mayweather. Paul hasnt gotten to that point yet. Paul JUST became a champion. He will BARELY be defending his newly acquired belt against Quintana.

        Now, with all that being said, Mayweather obviously will only be fighting once this year. It will only make sense for Cotto and Williams to meet up LATER this year. Let Williams bring up his stock. Let Williams make more noise and I'm sure Cotto will have no choice but to fight Williams at the end of 08.

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          #54
          Originally posted by RageX
          I think he is saying Margarito would beat Cotto if not I think he means whats the point when Margarito already lost to Williams, why choose Margarito over Williams?

          I think Paul will make a statement after his win over Quintana...AND i also think Cotto deserves the Mayweather fight more than Williams althought Williams is more of a threat.
          Why choose Baldomir over Margarito?

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            #55
            Originally posted by RageX
            I think he is saying Margarito would beat Cotto if not I think he means whats the point when Margarito already lost to Williams, why choose Margarito over Williams?

            I think Paul will make a statement after his win over Quintana...AND i also think Cotto deserves the Mayweather fight more than Williams althought Williams is more of a threat.
            Look Rage, do you follow boxing? You DO know Williams had 2 scheduled fights prior to Arum choosing Margo right? Why do you guys INSIST in making it seem like Cotto chose Margo so that he wouldnt have to fight Williams? Why?

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              #56
              Originally posted by Horus
              So Cotto and Margarito already fought...??

              When?
              Where?
              hOW?

              You see how ****** you are.....!!

              You cant say that that are goin to fight, because they were going to fight last time and what happen..??

              ALL YOU CAN do is wait untill they fight and then speak on it...

              But to give Cotto credit for fighting Margarito when they havent even fought yet,,

              Shows your intelligence

              LMAO @ your ******ity
              the **** are you talking about? Seriously Horus? where the **** did i type that they fought? All i did was point out that you said Margarito was a safe choice which ANY real boxing fan knows is bs. Whats with you and making **** up just so that you can seem like you know what your typing about?

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                #57
                Originally posted by 2501
                Why choose Baldomir over Margarito?
                I am agreeing with you and disagreeing with Horus, I think Cotto will kick Margarito's ass. I was just pointing out with what Whore us means...

                Cotto deserves a shot over Mayweather than anyone else right now, he is my favourite fighter and I hope he beats may...but i cant see it happening

                Also your post did not make any sense as Margarito lost to Williams so Williams would be the logical fight for Cotto rather than Margarito (A guy who Williams already beat. I dont know how Baldomir came into this post? If you are relating it to Mayweather (Which this thread has nothing to do about) then Baldomir was the linear champion at 147 and had a better resume than Margarito + a guaranteed 8 million dollars + PPV revenue.

                The fight would have had the same result as the Baldomir fight, wide ud for FM, Margarito would have done slightly better, I would rather see Mayweather beat a linear champion than a paper champ who held a WBO title.

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                • Ray*
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by 2501
                  Look, to be honest, ALL ranked Welters deserve a shot at each other. Both sides need to be honest and admit that. Thats why they are ranked. Williams should not be criticized for calling out Cotto. Thats how you make your career right? At the same time, Cotto should be treated the same. Cotto to this point, has done enough to be the person next in line to fight Mayweather. We arent talking about who will bring in the most money, WE as the fans should not concern ourselves with that because WE as the fans want to see the best quality fights. Not the fights that will make the most financial sense for another grown man. Cotto should be fighting Mayweather next, not De La Hoya. Cotto shouldnt have to clean out the whole division including Williams to earn his shot. Whether certain posters here will admit it or not, Cotto is also a star in the division. He has gotten to the point in his career where other fighters need to earn the right to fight HIM as well. Just like he had to earn the right to fight Mosley and Mayweather. Paul hasnt gotten to that point yet. Paul JUST became a champion. He will BARELY be defending his newly acquired belt against Quintana.

                  Now, with all that being said, Mayweather obviously will only be fighting once this year. It will only make sense for Cotto and Williams to meet up LATER this year. Let Williams bring up his stock. Let Williams make more noise and I'm sure Cotto will have no choice but to fight Williams at the end of 08.

                  I Agree with all of that especially the part where we the fans should be concern about how much these fighters make in fights, We should concentrate on the actual fighting itself nothing else.

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                  • Horus
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by 2501
                    the **** are you talking about? Seriously Horus? where the **** did i type that they fought? All i did was point out that you said Margarito was a safe choice which ANY real boxing fan knows is bs. Whats with you and making **** up just so that you can seem like you know what your typing about?
                    you said Margarito was a safe choice


                    when did i say this:

                    Originally Posted by Horus :
                    Cotto is obivously making smart Business Decision.....

                    He is taking safe measures to protect he chances of Fighting Mayweather


                    because if he fight a Young Prime Active Fighter and Loses...

                    Kiss the Mayweather fight Goodbye....



                    So what are you talking about...

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                    • Ray*
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by RageX
                      I am agreeing with you and disagreeing with Horus, I think Cotto will kick Margarito's ass. I was just pointing out with what Whore us means...

                      Cotto deserves a shot over Mayweather than anyone else right now, he is my favourite fighter and I hope he beats may...but i cant see it happening

                      Also your post did not make any sense as Margarito lost to Williams so Williams would be the logical fight for Cotto rather than Margarito (A guy who Williams already beat. I dont know how Baldomir came into this post? If you are relating it to Mayweather (Which this thread has nothing to do about) then Baldomir was the linear champion at 147 and had a better resume than Margarito + a guaranteed 8 million dollars + PPV revenue.

                      The fight would have had the same result as the Baldomir fight, wide ud for FM, Margarito would have done slightly better, I would rather see Mayweather beat a linear champion than a paper champ who held a WBO title.

                      Well said, One of my main point has alway been why would Arum go ahead with a Cotto/Margarito fight when He could have made Cotto/Williams since Williams beat Margarito....Arum said straight after the Williams/Margarito fight that he would even look at Williams as an option for Cotto...That should tell you something.

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