Over the last 10-12 years which fighter......

[Lazy Liberal]

Unless that loser can make a decent arguement I'm retiring from this thread, it was fun clowning that chump, he had no comebacks, and thanks for getting me five stars

He had no comeback just like Vargas.

[Degsy]

Only one answer, Sven 'the phantom' Ottke, the judges in Germany gave out more gifts than a mormon grandfather has to at christmas

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

has received the most "gift" decisions. Most of you know where I am going to go with this, but here it is anyway.....

John John Molina vs Oscar De La Hoya = gift for Oscar
Miguel Angel Gonzalez vs Oscar De La Hoya = gift for Oscar
Pernell Whitaker vs Oscar De la Hoya = gift for Oscar
Ike Quartey vs Oscar De La Hoya = gift for Oscar
Felix Sturm vs Oscar De La Hoya = gift for Oscar

Without all these gift decisons Oscar would have a 38-10 record. Even Arturo Gatti has a better record than that. Hardly hall of fame material.

haahahha thats hilarious bro. but only problem i have is ive never heard of this Oscar guy you are talking about? whos that?

[rebmogul]

haahahha thats hilarious bro. but only problem i have is ive never heard of this Oscar guy you are talking about? whos that?

you can find him in the cross dressing section under ****** wanna~be.

dice and david valenzuela also have her poster on the wall of the bedroom they share at their mom's house. it's only temporary though, their in between jobs at the moment.

if you know of anyone who is hiring they have plenty of experience. they are career security guards. but only unarmed due to their priors..

[duffgun]

Sven Ottke

[rebmogul]

Sven Ottke

you know , I'll have to hear more about Ottke. I think you are the second to say that?

[Fox McCloud]

you know , I'll have to hear more about Ottke. I think you are the second to say that?

Youtube round 6 and 7 of Ottke vs. Reid... it is ****ING disgusting.

A legit knockdown called a slip... a point taken away for the guy who was getting his head pushed down. No warnings for the guy actually doing the fouling. It was disgusting.

[crillz]

Unless that loser can make a decent arguement I'm retiring from this thread, it was fun clowning that chump, he had no comebacks, and thanks for getting me five stars

who you talking about?

[crillz]

I could have...

If he is going to mention the really close fights like Gonzalez as gifts, it is more than appropriate to mention Trinidad and Mosley II as gifts for Trinidad and Mosley...

It's pretty weak to not even try to address the alternate side of the argument... especially when the alternate side of the argument has such a credible point when examined compared to the original idea.

In Lehman's terms: If you are going to call close fights robberies for Oscar, you have to call close fights robberies against Oscar too.

you can go on all you want about those fights but you will in fact go against the point of the thread in the first place, the reason for this thread is to point out WHO IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS GOTTEN THE MOST GIFT DECISIONS, Trinidad with 1 and Mosley with 1 STILL doesn't compare to Oscar with 4 so they DON'T need to be mentioned in your "Lehman's" terms because those terms don't apply to the point of this thread homie..

[Fox McCloud]

you can go on all you want about those fights but you will in fact go against the point of the thread in the first place, the reason for this thread is to point out WHO IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING HAS GOTTEN THE MOST GIFT DECISIONS, Trinidad with 1 and Mosley with 1 STILL doesn't compare to Oscar with 4 so they DON'T need to be mentioned in your "Lehman's" terms because those terms don't apply to the point of this thread homie..

They do when the thread starter mentions that De La Hoya should have 10 losses on his record I think...

If he is going to count the close wins as certain losses, then he needs to count the close losses as certain wins. It's fine to point out gift decisions, but saying a fighter has 10 losses when his record only shows 5 in a factual manner is not right when both sides of a gift decision are not examined for him.

Just keeping it 100.