Gerry Penalosa's Title Defense in Jeopardy

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  • Steak
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    #31
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    Lol, that was a fluke if I have ever seen one.

    That fight leaves me no doubt that Gonzalez is a better fighter than Penalosa. He fought for like 50 seconds combined for the entire fight, and one of his punches landed perfectly.
    hahaha, this Pinoys are attacking the hell out of you for this small statement.

    when are yall goin to wake up and realize all hes saying is that Gonzalez was undoubtedly winning in that fight, and there was no change in momentum in the fight to suggest Penalosa would have done better up until the knockdown, and thats it.

    In other words, after seeing that fight, it seems logical that if they had a rematch, Gonzalez would win. why? because the fight would likely be about the same, except its very unlikely that Gonzalez would get caught with the same exact punch.
    Yes, Penalosa won the fight. Nobody is taking anything away from him. but Id be pretty surprised if anyone thought that Penalosa would win in a rematch after seeing that fight.

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      #32
      Originally posted by blackirish137
      hahaha, this Pinoys are attacking the hell out of you for this small statement.

      when are yall goin to wake up and realize all hes saying is that Gonzalez was undoubtedly winning in that fight, and there was no change in momentum in the fight to suggest Penalosa would have done better up until the knockdown, and thats it.

      In other words, after seeing that fight, it seems logical that if they had a rematch, Gonzalez would win. why? because the fight would likely be about the same, except its very unlikely that Gonzalez would get caught with the same exact punch.
      Yes, Penalosa won the fight. Nobody is taking anything away from him. but Id be pretty surprised if anyone thought that Penalosa would win in a rematch after seeing that fight.
      Well he said it was a fluke.

      You explained it better BlackIrish.

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        #33
        Well penalosa was getting out boxed the whole fight, but he was also setting up that left hook to the body.Yes if they fight again no doubt penalosa would probably lose unless he can somehow knock him out again, because their is no way penalosa is going to beat gonzalez in a boxing contest.

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        • Mr. Ryan
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          #34
          I agree that Penalosa was losing the fight, but a championship can only be lost in the ring (atleast in the boxing that I wish for). But from the logic that some are using, which is inadvertently in some cases, intentionally in others, trying to reverse the outcome outside of the ring instead of inside of it.

          Would Tyson have lost a rematch to Frans Botha, in which Tyson was down 40-36 on all 3 cards? Sugar-coat it all you want, that's the same logic being employed by a lot of people's reasonings in Penalosa-Gonzalez.

          Want to make a real point? Get Gonzalez back at 118 for a rematch and let him beat Penalosa fair and square. No one was making excuses before the KO, why make excuses afterwards?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Chups
            Well he said it was a fluke.

            You explained it better BlackIrish.
            It was a fluke...I dunno, I thought a fluke was something that happed that wasnt supposed to happen and isnt likely to happen again. but thats only my perception of the word, Im actually not sure what the proper definition of it is.

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              #36
              again, Gerry DESERVED the win because HE got the KO. But to the fans that are acting like he has risen to another level talent wise after that fight, stop kidding yourselves. Its like you all are DESPERATE for another fighter to be the face of the Philipines after Pacquiao.

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                #37
                Also i heard that gonzales had trouble making weight.Anyone know if this is true?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                  I agree that Penalosa was losing the fight, but a championship can only be lost in the ring (atleast in the boxing that I wish for). But from the logic that some are using, which is inadvertently in some cases, intentionally in others, trying to reverse the outcome outside of the ring instead of inside of it.

                  Would Tyson have lost a rematch to Frans Botha, in which Tyson was down 40-36 on all 3 cards? Sugar-coat it all you want, that's the same logic being employed by a lot of people's reasonings in Penalosa-Gonzalez.

                  Want to make a real point? Get Gonzalez back at 118 for a rematch and let him beat Penalosa fair and square. No one was making excuses before the KO, why make excuses afterwards?
                  why are you always trying to act like you know about boxing? bringing up old fights to point out what your trying to say, that **** is ***ing ******..

                  who wouldnt agree that penalosa was losing ? only a ***ing ****** ass biased nuthugger... Gonzalez had trouble making weight, there were NO EXCUSES it was a fact and the commentators were discussing about that before the fight, Gonzalez cant make the weight so he cant get a rematch.

                  Let him beat him fair and square? he wasnt beating him fairly or what? lol....

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                  • Steak
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    I agree that Penalosa was losing the fight, but a championship can only be lost in the ring (atleast in the boxing that I wish for). But from the logic that some are using, which is inadvertently in some cases, intentionally in others, trying to reverse the outcome outside of the ring instead of inside of it.

                    Would Tyson have lost a rematch to Frans Botha, in which Tyson was down 40-36 on all 3 cards? Sugar-coat it all you want, that's the same logic being employed by a lot of people's reasonings in Penalosa-Gonzalez.

                    Want to make a real point? Get Gonzalez back at 118 for a rematch and let him beat Penalosa fair and square. No one was making excuses before the KO, why make excuses afterwards?
                    probebly not, because Tyson was inactive for a long time before the Botha fight. he looked much better in the fights following that one. seems likely that he would have beat him the next time around.

                    And I like how the word 'excuses' is thrown around by some people. Saying something like 'Penalosa was undoubtedly losing before he got in that punch, and will probebly not be able to pull off that kind of thing again'=excuse??? yea, that makes sense.
                    an excuse would be 'Gonzalez only lost because he had trouble making weight'. which, as far as I know, has nothing to support it and hasnt been used by anyone. same as 'Pacquiao only got knocked out by that one fellow at a low weight class because he had trouble making weight'.

                    Edit: haha i take back that second part about not making weight, I guess someone just above me just did use that excuse. but up until that point, nobody had said it. maybe theres some truth in it though, you never know.
                    Last edited by Steak; 01-31-2008, 07:05 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      Penislosa has been given TOO much credit landing that shot against Gonzales. His fans are acting as if Gerry went into the fight thinking this:

                      "Lang balang kalangmbuaq, I will go into this fight and lose every round giving making my Mexican opponent think he will certainly win the fight. Then, I will turn everything around with a precisely positioned body shot to the kidney that will end the fight! ****alkan lanak mualanqua HAHAHA!!!"

                      **** outta here.
                      What's your point?
                      Joe Louis was losing before he Ko'ed Billy Conn.
                      Pernell was losing every round,risking a superfight against DelaHoya, before he KO'ed Hurtado.
                      Julian Jackson's face was getting busted up before he Ko'ed Herol Graham.
                      Micky Ward was losing every round before he Ko'ed Alfonso Sanches by a bodyshot.
                      JC Chavez was way behind the scorecard before He Ko'ed Meldrick.
                      Arce was losing before before he Ko'ed Rojas by a bodyshot.
                      Vasquez was beaten up badly, knocked down twice, before he Ko'ed Gonzales.
                      It's BOXING!
                      It's a fight.
                      You don't always have to win every round you know.

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