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I don't get why some ppl are saying he loses power when he makes weight, if he'd be alot stronger at the higher weight class why isn't he fighting there?
Miranda is a heavier puncher than pavlik tho just a shame his boxing abilities don't match.Comment
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Miranda always had trouble making 160lbs, but was able to do it in the past. As he got older, made money, he got bigger. It is part of the sport. Not many fighters stay at the same weight throughout their career. Miranda had talked about moving up in weight after the Abraham fight, but the money was too good at 160lbs and he thought he could still make the weight. Every fight got harder and harder for him, but he pushed himself to do it.
After Pavlik, he said that's it for 160lbs, he physically couldnt do it anymore. He didnt eat for 3 days before that fight, trained hard those days. He even was at the point of spitting for 24 hours and clipping his nails as far back as he could. All that and he still weighed in at 160.25lbs. He asked his trainer to take him to a blood bank to loose the final 1/4 lbs. It never happened, but it shows how desperate he was.
You are right. He probably should have moved up after the Abraham fight. He now admits how great he feels at 168lbs, and is not killing himself to make weight. I think his power was damn good at 160lbs, but he didnt keep all his strength do to the weight loss. At 168lbs, he is a different animal. And that is scary considering how close to the top he was at 160lbs.
Any of you who do not compete in weight class sports: boxing, wrestling, etc have no idea what 8lbs can mean to a person. At 168lbs you look at Edison's body at the weigh in and wonder how the hell did he ever loose another 8lbs. He is down to probably 1-2% body fat. Look at Pavlik at 160lbs, his body fat is still probably at 8-12%....Comment
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miranda is a good fighter but i think pascal would spring the upset and win a udComment
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Look at their weigh in pics in Memphis before they fought.
Miranda, no doubt is more muscular, but look how lean and ripped he got to make weight. You can see muscles and bones on him that you dont see on anybody. He physically had nothing left. Pavlik is lean, but you can see he has a lot more weight to lose to get to the point Miranda was at this weight. I dont see how anyone could look at these pics and think Pavlik has a harder time making the same weight.....
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Queston for Pantera2000: When's Miranda fighting again? And against who? I heard that Pascal was in the making but haven't heard anything since Miranda's last fight...Comment
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I hope he rematches Pavlik at SMWComment
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The current plan is Pascal on June 7th in Montreal. However, HBO and Showtime are both in discussions on other possibilities. The problem is, there really are no other big fight available. Not many of the top guys want to risk getting in the ring with Edison. Even if they agree with some of you and think Miranda isnt much, there is NO denying his power and what one punch could do to any of them.
Miranda is going to have to grab a belt and have the fans once again demand the big fights. Pavlik/Calzaghe/Taylor, none of them want to risk a fight with Edison unless there is big money at stake. Kinda of a hard position for Edison to be in. He wants to fight the best, but the best want to stay far away from him.
Me too! Some day....Comment
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I like miranda quite a bit, hes a very exciting fighter to watch and does have great power... I think he would give pavlik a better fight the 2nd time around... but at 168 he would STILL get that ass knocked out by pavlik... I think miranda should fight calzaghe.. now thats a fight i would like to see.. i still have zag winning that one but i think it would be a great fight.Comment
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