Holy cow at Mirandas punch...

[Mike Tyson77]

Miranda has had his ass whipped twice sonny.

[miron_lang]

My point is the obvious.....
Anyone who says 'Pavlik is the bigger guy' is an absolute ****ing idiot!

well..............Pavlik is the bigger guy

[Pantera2000]

1-2 % body fat???

My friend, who is your dope dealer because he must be giving you some good ****.

It's physically impossible to get that low. Championship bodybuilders go no lower than 3% . Typically, it's between 3-5%

Your definitely on in terms of Pavlik though. Thats a typical % for slender males..... Ectomorphs

I know quite a bit about diet and body fat.
I hear what you are saying, but when you are down to your lowest body fat, your body will start losing muscle. You can not stay healthy when this happens. Body builders need to get low, but they are ripped at 3-5%. Lebron James claims to play basketball and keep around 4% body fat.

When you starve yourself to make weight, your fat can get below 3% and it is very very dangerous. That was my point, and I think Edison was so low he was burning muscle to make the weight.

I would say Miranda, at 10-12% body fat would weigh 185-195lbs. So to put things into perspective, at equal BF percentage, Kelly Pavlik weighs 160lbs and Edison Miranda weights 185lbs+.

[Pantera2000]

This is like 'Pantera2000's Question Time'.

I've got one:
If Joe Calzaghe were to move back down after the Hopkins fight, let's say his opponent were Miranda instead of the Pavlik/Taylor winner (as has been mooted). How would you see that one panning out? You think Edison could destroy Joe with his power?
If Miranda were able to land one of those major bombs on Joe, I can see Calzaghe being knocked out or at least left wide-open vulnerable to being finished off. But if Calzaghe is able to evade Edison's heaviest bombs all night, I think Pantera would be easily outpointed. Joe -- even with his brawling streak -- would be wary of Miranda's brutal power @ 168 and would look to keep as much of the action as possible at a comparatively safe point-scoring range. As such, I'd see little chance of Edison winning a decision. In my mind, he could only win that fight by catching Joe with something big and knocking him out.
How do you see it?

Joe is by far the best 168lbs, and p4p not far from PBF.
No doubt Miranda would try to back him up and get in a big right hand. That would change the fight and he could pull of the KO. But for the most part, if this did not happen, JC would control the fight and make Edison look bad. Maybe now that Joe is getting older, Miranda would have a better chance in overpowering him, but my money would be on Calzaghe.

[WifeBeaterClub]

The current plan is Pascal on June 7th in Montreal. However, HBO and Showtime are both in discussions on other possibilities. The problem is, there really are no other big fight available. Not many of the top guys want to risk getting in the ring with Edison. Even if they agree with some of you and think Miranda isnt much, there is NO denying his power and what one punch could do to any of them.

Miranda is going to have to grab a belt and have the fans once again demand the big fights. Pavlik/Calzaghe/Taylor, none of them want to risk a fight with Edison unless there is big money at stake. Kinda of a hard position for Edison to be in. He wants to fight the best, but the best want to stay far away from him.

Wow...yoiu have to be joking right????

First off...I'd bet my eternal soul Kelly isn't affraid to risk a fight w/a guy he completely clowned then KTFO rather easily. Look it's obviously your attached to his nut sack, don't get me wrong I love watching this columbian kidd too, but you have to be smoking something to suggests after he ran away to another division that the current undiputed middle champ is somehow afraid of Miranda now. He's fighting the correct rematch with Taylor, but Taylor like Miranda trying to put on weight are only gonna get KTFO quicker IMHO because Kelly has the largets frame out of all of them... And as for Calzaghey....please he would clown Miranda so bad it would make the Lacy fight look competitive by comparison

[Ironside]

Pavlik would KO Edison again, regardless of the weight.

[Pantera2000]

Many of you are waaaay to high on Pavlik.
He beat a drained Miranda and almost got KO'd by Taylor, a guy who couldnt hurt the 154lbs guys put in front of him.

IMO, Miranda will be a much bigger, feared name in boxing than Kelly Pavlik in 1 year from now. Just like he ways 8 months ago.

But until than, I will stand behind my beliefs on Miranda and wait to laugh at you jokers!