Is Floyd Mayweather an All-Time Great?

[Crazylegs77]

No he is not an all time great. Maybe an all time statistic in terms of not winning fights on punching, but avoidance.

[-EX-]

No he is not an all time great. Maybe an all time statistic in terms of not winning fights on punching, but avoidance.

SMFH...

[Derranged]

I didnt realise we were talking about Margarito here... I do believe that makes your corn dog eating ass...a troll...

Your mom must be very proud of you..

The reason he probably brought up Margarito of because who started this thread. Come on Welter put it together....

[Hagler★]

I think Williams is overated until i see more from him

hes a decent boxer fighting quintana on 15th of feb
just uber tall

[Jim Jeffries]

Of course Floyd is an ATG, based on his resume and accomplishments thus far. Just not as high on the list as some people have him. Somewhere between 30 and 40, is where I'd have him. And he's young enough to move himself up that list considerably if he choses to.

[SkillspayBills]

He is an ATG but not near the GOAT. There are 2 people that I think I would even have him as the underdog in his best weight class 135lbs. He isn't even the greatest 135lber of all time but he is definitely an ATG and for better or worse his name will reverberate with those of yester year.

PBF's biggest fault is that he lacked a GREAT rival at one of his more natural weights 130-140. He won but they were possibly too easy wins for the most part. He needed his Pryor or Arguello.......he did'nt have his Duran or SRL, he didn't have his Hearns or Hagler.......just that we were never able to really see him against another truly Great fighter. Its not really his fault but something that the other greats had the furtune of having.

I can't stand when people make posts that I wanted to make first. Oh yeah the two you are talking about are Whitaker and Duran, correct?

[ReadyUp]

He's an "OUR" Time Great.

If he want's to be All-Time he has about 2-3 fights in the Welter/Junior Middle divisions to clear up.

And he really didn't have too. I think he could have stayed at 140 and became an all-time great with maybe a couple fights at Welter. But he made the decision when he decided to move up.

[BennyST]

a blown up 140 ha. what is mayweather than, a blown up 130? hatton walks around at 180 so 147 isn't anything. and his greatest victory is over DLH which is a great victory. and before you argue that DLH is too old let me shut you: He beat mayorga<---who beat Vernon Forrest twice<---who beat mosley twice. So needless to say, DLH was tip-top in that fight.

Mayweathers punch stat numbers destroy every punch stat number of any fighter EVER!

He fought Castillo, Corrales, Hatton, DLH, Judah and beat them handely. If he didn't fight those guys you would be here printing their names and saying how they could beat him and how he is ducking them cuz he is scared. SAD.

He is a great fighter and an ATG. When he retires he will be in the top 20 (around). But, to say De La Hoya was in top form is utterly absurd and ridiculous. He had only had two fights in about three years. He lost two of his last four, if I remember correctly, and while Mayorga was a decent brawler/crazy man he is nothing to brag about having beaten. Styles make fights and just because DLH beat him doesn't mean **** about Mayorga having fought Forrest and Forrest Mosley.

[BennyST]

He is an ATG but not near the GOAT. There are 2 people that I think I would even have him as the underdog in his best weight class 135lbs. He isn't even the greatest 135lber of all time but he is definitely an ATG and for better or worse his name will reverberate with those of yester year.

PBF's biggest fault is that he lacked a GREAT rival at one of his more natural weights 130-140. He won but they were possibly too easy wins for the most part. He needed his Pryor or Arguello.......he did'nt have his Duran or SRL, he didn't have his Hearns or Hagler.......just that we were never able to really see him against another truly Great fighter. Its not really his fault but something that the other greats had the furtune of having.

As Skills pointed out, I think this is the big thing that will always unfortunately play against him. He's a great fighter but he really, really needed or needs another amazing fighter to have a defining fight or fights with. Unfortunately he's in an era which lacks any considerable talent and it looks like his career defining win will be against an over-the-hill De La Hoya. This is made all the worse by it being such a **** boring fight.

Of course the other thing Lefty pointed out is that because he has never faced another ATG fighter we will never have the slightest clue as to whether he really deserves the accolades he is getting at the moment. It's unfortunate because that is the only thing that taints him for me at the moment. We will never see him fight a great pure boxer (a Whitaker), or a great puncher (a Hearns) or an amazing aggressive infighter (a Duran), unlike most of the guys he has fought.

All the guys at the very top fought the very best. You have guys fighting any number of HOF'ers and we can judge them as truly great, all time great, fighters based on this. The only guy that will probably definitely make it to the HOF will be DLH, and well, why thats good...it just wasn't the best win. Even if he had actually faced a guy like Tszyu before he (Tszyu) faced Hatton, or even a few years earlier it would've made such a big difference. Tszyu was renowned for beating slick, hard to catch boxers and a win like that for him would of been great.

[robjr]

lol the baldomir comment got me laughin.. nice!