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Oh, so Floyd didn't really mean it, did he? I might also add that in that same presser he referenced a punching bag in his gym that the guys called the Gatti bag. Why? Cuz all it did was take punishment. Guess there wasn't a hint of truth in that either?All hype. He praised Gatti after he beat him, same as he did Hatton. If you believe everything Floyd says, then you shouldn't have a problem with him retiring since he's already greater than SRR.
I might also add that Mayweather complained that HBO would NOT let him fight Leija because they felt it was a mismatch but OK'ed Gatti to fight him. ****, even HBO knows how much Gatti ****** at the time. The man lost to IVAN ROBINSON TWICE. ANGEL MANFREDY. And nearly DIED at the hands of Oscar De La Hoya. He was FINISHED.
LMAO@ how pathetic you sound. 32-0? Against who? Prior to Gatti, the last dude he fought had a LOSING RECORD. In fact, MOST of the guys he fought had losing records. ****, most of the guys he fought after Gatti had losing records.32-0 doesn't at all suggest to me that the guy was a bum in anyway, I have no idea why you even imply it or what evidence you have to show for it. You're just being over dramatic like most women are, while taking for granted your own circular reasoning. You are losing this debate, and it's clear to anyone who knows how to debate. You get more dumb and desperate with each post until you are reduced to every logical fallacy there is.
Dude, don't try to lump me in with anybody. I believe Floyd beats Cotto. I also believe Floyd is a great fighter. But I won't nuthug him just because I'm a FAN of his. And I won't accept mediocrity just so I can defend him on a message board. Sharmba Mitchell looked like absolute **** in his two fights before Floyd, one of them a division below where he was bounced up and down off the mat like an excited hooker. So cut the crap and take off the chinchilla-covered glasses, ok? No need to try and make an insignificant win as something SPECIAL.Do you have anything else to say? You degrade Mitchell like he's sub-human. The man is a pro boxer and former champion who has ONLY lost to elite fighters. If being shot is suggested by a loss, then he was shot when he first lost to Stevie Johnson. You people definitely make no sense and that was Floyd's first fight at WW, he fought the #1 contender after that, and then the champ, then moved up and beat a HOF champ, moved back down ad beat an undefeated lineal champ. While Cotto fights his leftovers, a 36 year old man, and a former Contender Contender.
Last edited by IMDAZED; 01-11-2008, 11:52 AM.Comment
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Which makes it even more ridiculous that Floyd would take such fights right?
You guys are great, you cant even admit when you're wrong. Now try to throw something else at me and change the subject.Comment
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Let the young ww fight. Since Floyd is only gonna fight in 09 and that's an IF, he should have only one more in him at the level he got us used to. Let it be king vs king, so people won't say Cotto beat a 36 year old Mosley and nut punched Judah and THAT WAS WHY FLOYD HAND PICKED HIM. lol oh memory.Ok I know there are a LOT of Floyd Mayweather fans on this forum.
I like Floyd myself, as a Boxer perhaps not as a man due to his attiude & history of violence outside the ring towards women.
The thing is , If you are a TRUE fan of Floyd Mayweather JR then you really should want to see him fighting the best Contenders in his Division right?
Many argue he was lucky to have the likes of Baldomir & Judah holding the titles in this division which of course is not his fault.
So he did the Business and beat them both.
It is no secret that Baldomir would probably have lost to anyone in the top 5 maybe top 10 at Welterweight.
Zab did his famous trick of losing his focus against Floyd and lost.
He has since lost to Miguel Cotto as well.
The thing I don't understand is if you are a fan of Floyd or indeed a fan of Boxing don't you think Floyd should be dealing with these Contenders like Cotto & Williams?
Imagine if Hagler had never fought hearns or Leonard.
Or Ali never met Frazier or Foreman etc..
I don't understand why Floyd fans can accept Ricky Hatton as the final piece in Floyds resume who was NEVER a real contender at Welterweight.
So answer me this Floyd fans.
Will you be happy if he doesn't deal with the true Welterweight contenders?
And if so can you explain why you would be happy for him not to fight them.
Anyway you your facts twisted man. Baldomir was seen as the most likely fighter to beat PBF at the time, he had not lost for 10 years and had just beat Judah. Judah had already lost to baldomir and Tszu but those were seen (not by Floyd, by US, the audience as flukes) so the fight was made. Gatti WANTED PBF against his manager's best advice. Please if you're gonna try to bad mouth the best of our era dont be partial.Comment
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Even if he did, you're implying that you believe him. No need to compartmentalize. If you believe what Floyd says, then he's better than SRR, so all of your points are mot, no?
As stated, take Floyd at face value and he's the greatest of all time, so who cares?I might also add that he mentioned in that same presser he referenced a punching bag in his gym that the guys called the Gatti bag. Why? Cuz all it did was take punishment. Guess there wasn't a hint of truth in that either?
I might also add that Mayweather complained that HBO would NOT let him fight Leija because they felt it was a mismatch but OK'ed Gatti to fight him. ****, even HBO knows how much Gatti ****** at the time. The man lost to IVAN ROBINSON TWICE. ANGEL MANFREDY. And nearly DIED at the hands of Oscar De La Hoya. He was FINISHED.
How many things are you going to add? lol.. Those fights were well spaced, grouping them together in a sequence only exposes you as disingenuous. You bring up Manfredy, but Floyd KOed Manfredy in 2!
You are fighting a losing battle and bury yourself more and more.
LMAO@ how pathetic you sound. 32-0? Against who? Prior to Gatti, the last dude he fought had a LOSING RECORD. In fact, MOST of the guys he fought had losing records. ****, most of the guys he fought after Gatti had losing records.
Stop with the LMAOs, it's ****** and annoying and shows that you don't have a point. You over there calm as hell, but typing fast as a motha ****a using LOLs for dramatic effect. Doesn't work here.
I don't care what you say. Anybody 32-0 wity regional titles is at least half way decent and I don't see many losing records on his resume. He's only lost to Cotto and Gatti, so you have no dirt on him. The only thing that you can objectively state is that he's un proven and can't beat elite, or at least more elite fighters than himself, like Corley.
Your bitterness doesn't affect me and I don't care about your feelings towards Floyd, I didn't ask you. I'm addressing your nonsense claims and cherry picking. You keep bringing up Mitchell and Gatti when Floyd's last win was against Hatton and first big win was against Hernandez. He's been hot and has been beating top fighters for that long. You say Mitchell looked horrible in his last two fights before Floyd, but he won the one before Floyd and before that, lost to a legend at 140 who KOed Judah even quicker. He also won the fight directly after and regardless, he's a former champ and should be respected as such. Floyd definitely trained properly and didn't take him lightly and never does to any opponent, no matter what boxingscene groupies with limited boxing knowledge would like to think. You have no point sir, just quit while you're ahead. You are just a reductionist trying to pass yourself off as objective.Dude, don't try to lump me in with anybody. I believe Floyd beats Cotto. I also believe Floyd is a great fighter. But I won't nuthug him just because I'm a FAN of his. And I won't accept mediocrity just so I can defend him on a message board. Sharmba Mitchell looked like absolute **** in his two fights before Floyd, one of them a division below where he was bounced up and down off the mat like an excited hooker. So cut the crap and take off the chinchilla-covered glasses, ok? No need to try and make an insignificant win as something SPECIAL.Comment
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When Floyd was 31-0, he had won a 130 lb title and defended it 8 times, then won a 135 lb title and defended it 3 times.
Cotto at 31-0 has won a 140 lb title and defended it 6 times, then won a 147 lb title and defended it 3 times.
You're right, HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference.Comment
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