Had Shane won, i gurantee....

[ElGranLuchador]

so we all agree that if floyd avoids cotto in 2008 hes scared of him right?

[pbftxrs316]

I'm not sure you're suggesting Floyd would outbox or stop Cotto by allowing himself to get on the ropes and countering him as he did vs DLH and Hatton? That's not the fight I would expect from Floyd vs Cotto, I think he would avoid the ropes at all costs and try to pot shot Cotto in the middle of the ring and clinch as much as he can. Only problem is that Floyd isn't the only one who has a great jab on this one, Cotto is not as fast as Floyd but he could give Floyd fits if they fought.

no, i was suggesting that cotto did fight good against shane in the middle of the ring but against floyd, he would get countered all day imo in the middle of the ring or even on the ropes, because cotto fights best when his opponent is on the ropes, but floyd's defense is good as hell off of the ropes and although that is where floyd is most vulnerable, he d is still good, because he has shown that he can counter off of the ropes well like he did against oscar in the 5th round, like he did against corley, and genaro. what i'm suggesting is that cotto would have to stary away from boxing floyd, especially in the middle of the ring because floyd is too fast but not only that, he is too accurate a puncher for cotto to try to outbox him, so cotto would have to land a solid punch on floyd to slow him down and i don't think he would land much on floyd at all, and i could see floyd getting a tko on cotto, because of how pinpoint he gets especially in the later rounds. people say floyd gets stronger as the fight progresses, but i disagree, he stays strong throughout the fight but at a tempered pace whether offensively of defensively, which is why i always put the word methodical in my posts while describing floyd, because he is too methodical a fighter for cotto. he knows how to frustrate you in any round he sees a mistake from you in. cotto is a solid, good fighter, no doubt about it, but floyd is too methodically complex for him, but nonetheless, they will fight evenutally i truly believe and i will buy it.

[Greatwhitehope]

If he was to beat Cotto it would show that he's willing to verse the best, too me it would prove once and for all that he is the greatest fighter going around at the moment. It is frustrating to watch him fight mainly for money, he should instead be using his skill to show that he may well be one of the all time greats.

[Tijuana Tornado]

If Shane Mosley would have beat Miguel Cotto i can almost gurantee you Mayweather-Mosley would already be in the making. But Cotto won and now Mayweather wants to retire. All Mayweather cares about his money i hate him. On 24/7 he says he has enough money that the only reason hes fighting is obviosly for love of the sport, then on the next episode he will say its all about money. He contradicts himself.

Mayweather makes his fights very carefully ever since he has moved p to 140. He only makes fights hes pretty much positive he will win and make good money doing. Hes smart,yes. Hes a great fighter, yes. But hes unwilling to take risks.

I think Cotto-Mayweather would be a great fight if its ever made and i just hope it happens in the future. Hopefully Cotto has a good 08 and raises his stock some more to lure Floyd into a fight. A win over De La Hoya would surely do that.

Yeah, this is plain and basic common sense. I remember before the fight Mayweather was predicting Mosley would KO Cotto. You could tell he was hoping Mosley wins so he could fight the old man. But now that Cotto won he's back to his ducking and dodging self.

[Kobe Bryant]

Jeez Cotto is not God. You all need to calm down. The fight will happen more than likely. This same subject has been redone over a hundred times.

[Smunoz]

Classic dumbass hater statement. An undefeated P4P Corrales was not a risk? A prime Castillo in his first fight at 135 wasn't a risk? Zab Judah who just knocked out Cory Spinks wasn't a risk? AN OSCAR DE LA HOYA WHO WAS 19 POUNDS HEAVIER ON FIGHT NIGHT WASN'T A RISK?!?!

Let's see Miguel Cotto move to 154 and dominate. Then let's see him go to 160 and become the Ring Champion, then let's see him go to 168 and beat Calzaghe. In order to even be compared to Floyd, that's what he would have to accomplish.

Papa el hecho que estamos hablando es quien le gana aquien en cual o tal circunstancia. No imp cuantos titulos en tantas diviciones tenga maywether lo que imp son las circumstancias del momento. Creeme nada de eso le va a ayudar o hacer daño a floyd. El hecho es que cotto impone un gran riesgo para maywether y entiendo tiene suficientes herramientas para ganarle o al menos darle una pelea dificilisima a floyd para el deleite del fanatico. Entiendo que cotto debe aumentar mas su valor en el boxeo en terminos de atractivo taquillero pero eso es algo inevitable pues con unas cuantas peleas este año lo lograra. Pero hay que ver si Mr floyd acepta el reto que eso eso otra cantar. Y te digo esto para refutar tu argumento de que floyd es un babilloso. El tipo no peleo en su pasado con tipos como barrera, marquez, morales, mosley en su mejor momento so ni corrales ni castillo estan al nivel de los antes mencionados inclusive de los 4 mosqueteros mejicanos floyd peleo y le gano al 4 mejor de ellos. Dime te hago una pregunta hace varios años atras que pelea es mas arriegada una contra castillo o una contra Morales en su prime. So toma riesgos contra tipos buenos pero no contra los mejores disponibles.

[Smunoz]

[QUOTE=Mr. Suarez;3001666]wow, then your 5 pounds and a few years wronger than i thought. congradulations.

Cotto is ready now because he is coming off the 2 biggest wins of his career. Do you not see that? You want Cotto to fight Mayweather after he beats DeMarcus Corley and Mohammed Abullaebv or after he beats Zab Judah and Shane Mosley? Hes ready now because hes on the elite level now. People picked him to lose against Oscar? I sure as hell didnt.

Why do you keep comparing Floyd and Cotto's accomplishments? Did i ever say Cotto has done more and can travel further in weight? That Cotto is the man? That Cotto will even beat Floyd? I said Cotto deserves a ***in shot, and he does. I never said Cotto is better and is the man. Cotto has earned a shot and he rightfully deserves it. And Floyd just isnt willing to make it happen because of money, and i say its ******. He'll still make millions. Thats what this thread is about. Not who has gone up further in weight and accomplished more. Stop trying to twist the argument to something it isnt to favor your side.


MR suarez the thing is Floyd is like 5"7 so when he begin in the sport he was very big in comparition to the other oponents. His size is like the everege ww fighter. Thats why he has gone so far in climbing divitions. Obviosly he got skills but his body gives him flexibility to fight in other divitions and extend his carrer. The same thing is with paul williams. If he wants he can get to almost heavyweight. Look Roy Jones is 5'11 so the welterwieght williams is bigger than en ex heavyweight champ. MY point is that in 147 floyd got the limit in terms of physical limitations because theres is a point where the physical limitations are too big thato almost all the skills in the world just cant help you a lot. My point is that when you compare Floyd size when he beging his carrer to the size of Cotto when he began his carrer you see that Floyd has more flexibility to climb divitions rather than Cotto. This arguments said it all Floyd began with 5"7 in the lightweights and in ww he has gone as far of his physical atributios can let him go so imagine a guy that is only an inch bigger like Cotto who is 5"8 and began in JW and right now is in the ww. If Floyd got as far as his physical atributions let him get so Cotto with only one inch bigger also did. So thats why Cotto would never have the oportunity to have all the belts that floyd has because he began in a weight near of what his physical atributions can let him go. Rather than he goes back to lowers divitions to hunt more belts. Because if he hunts him up he has no chance like Floyd at this moment.

[Smunoz]

MR suarez the thing is Floyd is like 5"7 so when he begin in the sport he was very big in comparition to the other oponents. His size is like the everege ww fighter. Thats why he has gone so far in climbing divitions. Obviosly he got skills but his body gives him flexibility to fight in other divitions and extend his carrer. The same thing is with paul williams. If he wants he can get to almost heavyweight. Look Roy Jones is 5'11 so the welterwieght williams is bigger than en ex heavyweight champ. MY point is that in 147 floyd got the limit in terms of physical limitations because theres is a point where the physical limitations are too big thato almost all the skills in the world just cant help you a lot. My point is that when you compare Floyd size when he beging his carrer to the size of Cotto when he began his carrer you see that Floyd has more flexibility to climb divitions rather than Cotto. This arguments said it all Floyd began with 5"7 in the lightweights and in ww he has gone as far of his physical atributios can let him go so imagine a guy that is only an inch bigger like Cotto who is 5"8 and began in JW and right now is in the ww. If Floyd got as far as his physical atributions let him get so Cotto with only one inch bigger also did. So thats why Cotto would never have the oportunity to have all the belts that floyd has because he began in a weight near of what his physical atributions can let him go. Rather than he goes back to lowers divitions to hunt more belts. Because if he hunts him up he has no chance like Floyd at this moment.

[~*Danielle*~]

Stop talking about height. Thats all people talk about on here. It doesnt mean anything. There are guys in boxing and people in the real world who are 6ft and some way 250 while others way 150. It has nothing to do with your size. Cotto's only 5'7 but he's built like a truck. Stop trying to make it sound like he is small. He's not. Dont make it sound like he's this tiny guy moving up either. Anyone with eyes can see that he was never a 140 pounder. He killed himself every fight to make weight and looked so sick at the weigh-ins. He's big as ****. He's wide and thick. Look at Tyson & Chico's height. I guess that means Tyson isnt that big either, right?

What the hell are you bringing up a heavy weight for? We're talking about grown men that weigh 147 pounds. No grown ass man that wieghs 147 pound is big as ****. I agree with you that he was killing himself at 140 but he's said many times now that he feels really good at 147. I never said he was tiny I just don't think he's weird big either. He's just your avg WW. I can't stand when people try to make it sound like he's a damn beast. He's normal.

[ferocity]

Classic dumbass hater statement. An undefeated P4P Corrales was not a risk? A prime Castillo in his first fight at 135 wasn't a risk? Zab Judah who just knocked out Cory Spinks wasn't a risk? AN OSCAR DE LA HOYA WHO WAS 19 POUNDS HEAVIER ON FIGHT NIGHT WASN'T A RISK?!?!

Let's see Miguel Cotto move to 154 and dominate. Then let's see him go to 160 and become the Ring Champion, then let's see him go to 168 and beat Calzaghe. In order to even be compared to Floyd, that's what he would have to accomplish.

Yes, a prime Castillo wasn't supposed to be the threat he became to Mayweather. Mayweather and people thought he had an easy fight, back fired on them.

Judah hadn't just knocked out Spinks but had just lost to baldomier, stop with the pound differnce, Delahoya is an old man.

You are asking too much of Cotto while we are asking for Mayweather to take the fights at his weight, dededeee.