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  • ~*Danielle*~
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    #31
    Originally posted by DLT

    The 2nd and biggest reason is size. Stop making it sound like its because Cotto is so scary talented. Shane is easily bigger then Floyd but there size is comparable. Cotto made Shane look like a little boy in the ring. Manny Steward is the biggest Floyd hater there is and "the 1st thing he said in the Cotto-Mosley fight is that you can clearly see how much naturally bigger Cotto is then Mosley. He looks like he's definatly a weight class and maybe 2 classes bigger then Mosley".

    Now if Shane is clearly bigger and thicker then Floyd and Cotto made him look like a little boy then Floyd will definatly hesitate to take that fight. Even though Shane went to 154 he has always looked smaller then all the guys he fought. Thats why Floyd seen him as a good matchup because even though he was bigger, he's still much closer to Floyd then all the other big WW's are. I mean, just look at what you guys are saying. If Shane had won then Floyd wouldve fought him. That means that if Shane had won then he wouldve looked like a beast that killed a bad mofo. So if Floyd wouldnt be scared of that then why be worried about Cotto? If he won then he obviously had more skill then Cotto. The difference is that Cotto is huge. Its not about his talent but his crazy size, just like the other guys.
    Again, you guys make it sound like Floyd wont fight Cotto but has called out Clottey & Cintron. If he did that then maybe you could argue that Floyd is just scared of Cotto but he hasnt. There too big. Look at Margarito. Is he special? Hell no but Floyd wouldnt fight him either. That throws that Cotto stuff right out the window. Its not there skill set. Margarito dont scare anyone with his skills but he's just so much bigger then Floyd and thats what the problem is. If Floyd loses then he wants it to be because a guy is better then him, not simply just because he was too big. Floyd dont mind fighting bigger guys. He's always done it but at some point you get to a cut off spot and 147 is it. Unless they were the Champ like Baldy or bring money like Oscar then he doesnt need it
    nonsense! Miguel Cotto is 5'7" for godsakes. He's got a wide back but thats it. Give that a rest. I can't believe your quoting Manny. He looked stronger than Shane but he didn't look much bigger, Thats bull****! Miguel Cotto isn't a big WW at all. He's your avg WW. Mayweather would do just fine at WW if it wasn't the most talent rich division in the sport.

    As far as the topic goes... It doesn't matter who won the fight. Mayweather wouldn't be fighting Mosley either. Floyds been ducking Mosley since they were lightweights. The outcome would be the same either way, Mayweather just doesn't want to face the chance of loosing

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    • SkillspayBills
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      #32
      Originally posted by ~*Danielle*~
      nonsense! Miguel Cotto is 5'7" for godsakes. He's got a wide back but thats it. Give that a rest. I can't believe your quoting Manny. He looked stronger than Shane but he didn't look much bigger, Thats bull****! Miguel Cotto isn't a big WW at all. He's your avg WW. Mayweather would do just fine at WW if it wasn't the most talent rich division in the sport.

      As far as the topic goes... It doesn't matter who won the fight. Mayweather wouldn't be fighting Mosley either. Floyds been ducking Mosley since they were lightweights. The outcome would be the same either way, Mayweather just doesn't want to face the chance of loosing
      Stop being a Cotto nutlicker.............literally.

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      • ~*Danielle*~
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        #33
        Originally posted by SkillspayBills
        Stop being a Cotto nutlicker.............literally.
        Why would you say that? I am a fan of Cotto but that doesn't make me a nutlicker... funny as **** choice of words though.

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        • Gato2012
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          #34
          Originally posted by tito yuca
          Actually, it was at 130, "dumb ****".

          The Judah fight was signed immediately after Judah beat Spinks. In other words, IT WAS SIGNED BEFORE HE LOST TO BALDOMIR

          Ok, he fought "old" De la Hoya, who many if not MOST people picked him to lose against, who everyone was saying was looking great after beating Mayorga, who described himself as being "in the best shape of my life", at a higher weight class, and with a 19-pound weight disadvantage on fight night. 154 is 5 weight classes above were Floyd started. If that's such a small feat and Cotto is the man, why doesn't he go 5 weight classes above where he started and take on Calzaghe at 168? Even if he did, he wouldn't deserve credit according to you, because Oscar was old at 34 yet Calzaghe is 36.

          Of course Cotto is willing NOW, now that Floyd is the biggest draw in the sport and a guaranteed career-high payday. Back in 2005 when he didn't have mainstream recognition, Cotto "wasn't ready". Nobody was, in fact. Yet somehow FLOYD is the only one who cares about money.
          wow, then your 5 pounds and a few years wronger than i thought. congradulations.

          Cotto is ready now because he is coming off the 2 biggest wins of his career. Do you not see that? You want Cotto to fight Mayweather after he beats DeMarcus Corley and Mohammed Abullaebv or after he beats Zab Judah and Shane Mosley? Hes ready now because hes on the elite level now. People picked him to lose against Oscar? I sure as hell didnt.

          Why do you keep comparing Floyd and Cotto's accomplishments? Did i ever say Cotto has done more and can travel further in weight? That Cotto is the man? That Cotto will even beat Floyd? I said Cotto deserves a ***in shot, and he does. I never said Cotto is better and is the man. Cotto has earned a shot and he rightfully deserves it. And Floyd just isnt willing to make it happen because of money, and i say its ******. He'll still make millions. Thats what this thread is about. Not who has gone up further in weight and accomplished more. Stop trying to twist the argument to something it isnt to favor your side.

          and who cares if the Judah fight was already signed, it still happened. And officially, it was NOT signed. Floyd could have gotten out of it. Because the agreement was that Judah had to BEAT Baldomir and he DIDNT.

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          • Gato2012
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            #35
            Originally posted by gerardofpr
            I'm not Floyd and neither are you, he damn sure aint giving you none of that money. As a boxing fan, I rather see him fight Clottey of course, it would be a better match up.
            .....well said

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            • Ray  Ray
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              #36
              It has only been a several weeks since Floyd's last fight. Why dont you let the **** play out before you start running your mouth. DAMN this **** is getting pretty pathetic IMO. The guy cant have a little time to make up his ****ing mind without someone keeping his name in their mouth.

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              • DLT
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                #37
                Originally posted by ~*Danielle*~
                nonsense! Miguel Cotto is 5'7" for godsakes. He's got a wide back but thats it. Give that a rest. I can't believe your quoting Manny. He looked stronger than Shane but he didn't look much bigger, Thats bull****! Miguel Cotto isn't a big WW at all. He's your avg WW. Mayweather would do just fine at WW if it wasn't the most talent rich division in the sport.

                As far as the topic goes... It doesn't matter who won the fight. Mayweather wouldn't be fighting Mosley either. Floyds been ducking Mosley since they were lightweights. The outcome would be the same either way, Mayweather just doesn't want to face the chance of loosing
                Stop talking about height. Thats all people talk about on here. It doesnt mean anything. There are guys in boxing and people in the real world who are 6ft and some way 250 while others way 150. It has nothing to do with your size. Cotto's only 5'7 but he's built like a truck. Stop trying to make it sound like he is small. He's not. Dont make it sound like he's this tiny guy moving up either. Anyone with eyes can see that he was never a 140 pounder. He killed himself every fight to make weight and looked so sick at the weigh-ins. He's big as ****. He's wide and thick. Look at Tyson & Chico's height. I guess that means Tyson isnt that big either, right?

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                • onetwopunch
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by JoeCalzaghe
                  I agree mate but I think we will see Cotto against Mayweather at the end of this year. Mayweather is too greedy to turn it down and I think the fans will back him into a corner untill he fights Cotto. If Cotto loses his next fight though I don't think they will ever fight.
                  I agree with you, Not only the fans but the media always brings up Cotto's name when ever they are interviewing Mayweather. I think it will happen sometime late 08. But Cotto will probably fight either Clottey/Williams or Margarito before the fight with PBF is made.

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                  • Eno
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                    #39
                    You guys need to chill the **** out and wait a couple of months. Most likely this fight happens in the next year.

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                    • FLOYDISGOD
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mr. Suarez
                      If Shane Mosley would have beat Miguel Cotto i can almost gurantee you Mayweather-Mosley would already be in the making. But Cotto won and now Mayweather wants to retire. All Mayweather cares about his money i hate him. On 24/7 he says he has enough money that the only reason hes fighting is obviosly for love of the sport, then on the next episode he will say its all about money. He contradicts himself.

                      Mayweather makes his fights very carefully ever since he has moved p to 140. He only makes fights hes pretty much positive he will win and make good money doing. Hes smart,yes. Hes a great fighter, yes. But hes unwilling to take risks.

                      I think Cotto-Mayweather would be a great fight if its ever made and i just hope it happens in the future. Hopefully Cotto has a good 08 and raises his stock some more to lure Floyd into a fight. A win over De La Hoya would surely do that.
                      right you are.....i think floyd is taking a break be cuz he will train twice as hard for the cotto fight cause they will fight eventually

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