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  • Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
    Bernard is just trying to hype himself. Watch his earlier fights and see if he has the same skills now that he did back then.

    By the looks of your posts, you don't know **** about boxing. Stick to the 80's boxing cuz you haven't watched boxing in over 20 years by the looks of your avatar. <--- lame insult returned.

    Get outa here man how the **** do you know that?

    That is a dumbass opinion you have when the man is actually on record saying this....He's said it more than once too and has just delivered the performance that blows your argument out the water.

    He's on the best run right now he's ever had...Fighting all the top guys!

    Beat Tarver..Schooled Tarver infact.
    Clearly beats Winky
    Loses a close SD to the best fighter in the world at 168 and 175
    Shuts out the Undisputed middleweight champion.

    As Bernard says too "this guy aint old, you've been lied too". So whoever is telling you Bernard Hopkins is an old fighter is not a reliable source.
    Last edited by The Gunner; 02-09-2009, 10:17 PM.

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    • Waiting for your reply Kswizzy...

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      • Originally posted by The Gunner View Post
        Get outa here man how the **** do you know that?

        That is a dumbass opinion you have when the man is actually on record saying this....He's said it more than once too and has just delivered the performance that blows your argument out the water.

        He's on the best run right now he's ever had...Fighting all the top guys!

        Beat Tarver..Schooled Tarver infact.
        Clearly beats Winky
        Loses a close SD to the best fighter in the world at 168 and 175
        Shuts out the Undisputed middleweight champion.

        As Bernard says too "this guy aint old, you've been lied too". So whoever is telling you Bernard Hopkins is an old fighter is not a reliable source.
        the only thing bernard does better now is holding and hugging. the fact that you think his performance in the pavlik fight compares to what he was doing 10 years ago shows that you are deluded.

        compare this video to anything hopkins has done in the last 3 years --->

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        • Originally posted by Kastrioti View Post
          I'm not psychic, and I'm not an investigator. I simply stated what was fact, which is you said Hopkins was one of the few that Calzaghe needed to prove himself with, and after Calzaghe beat him you switched it. There's no reason for you to take it out, other than hate. If you weren't a hater you would simply state that Calzaghe has proven himself, by beating one of the fighters that I mentioned he needed to beat.
          I'm white and Canadian. state my motive. and look at my favorite's list before you say that I'm a white guy that hates white fighters or that I hate British fighters cuz neither is true.

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          • Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
            the only thing bernard does better now is holding and hugging. the fact that you think his performance in the pavlik fight compares to what he was doing 10 years ago shows that you are deluded.

            compare this video to anything hopkins has done in the last 3 years --->
            Holding and hugging is smart dont hate on it...That is a side to Bernards game that is ugly but ****ing smart as hell. He fights an open fight with Calzaghe now, then or 15 years ago he loses a landslide UD because he'd clearly get outworked.

            He fights in spurts and holds in spurts though he slows the faster busier man down....Thats not a sign Bernard is on the slide that was a ****ing genious game plan.

            The fight against Pavlik was vintage Executioner.....Bernard maybe has two other performances in his WHOLE career that cant be compared to that, it was an old school Execution. The other two great performances against top level fighters were Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver. 2 of the 3 of them have came when Bernard was over 40.

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            • Originally posted by Kastrioti View Post
              So let me ask you, what is your motive for not giving Calzaghe credit for beating someone you said he needed to beat in order to be something?
              Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
              I'm white and Canadian. state my motive. and look at my favorite's list before you say that I'm a white guy that hates white fighters or that I hate British fighters cuz neither is true.
              What is this? That's your reply? I don't care if your white and Canadian, I wouldn't care if you were Welsh and lived right next to Joe, it doesn't answer the question above.

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              • Originally posted by The Gunner View Post
                Holding and hugging is smart dont hate on it...That is a side to Bernards game that is ugly but ****ing smart as hell. He fights an open fight with Calzaghe now, then or 15 years ago he loses a landslide UD because he'd clearly get outworked.

                He fights in spurts and holds in spurts though he slows the faster busier man down....Thats not a sign Bernard is on the slide that was a ****ing genious game plan.

                The fight against Pavlik was vintage Executioner.....Bernard maybe has two other performances in his WHOLE career that cant be compared to that, it was an old school Execution. The other two great performances against top level fighters were Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver. 2 of the 3 of them have came when Bernard was over 40.
                he ko'd trinidad, old school bernard would have ko'd or atleast kd pavlik in that fight but he didn't even come close even with all the punches he was landing flush on pavlik.

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                • Originally posted by Kastrioti View Post
                  What is this? That's your reply? I don't care if your white and Canadian, I wouldn't care if you were Welsh and lived right next to Joe, it doesn't answer the question above.
                  of course it does. you called me out on being a "hater". hate doesn't stem from nothing. there has to be a motive.

                  you are trying to say that my view on Calzaghe has nothing to do with his accomplishments, in other words it is "irrational". But I'm proving to you that my view on Calzaghe is purely based on his accomplishments therefore it is rational.

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                  • Originally posted by Kastrioti View Post
                    What is this? That's your reply? I don't care if your white and Canadian, I wouldn't care if you were Welsh and lived right next to Joe, it doesn't answer the question above.
                    Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
                    of course it does. you called me out on being a "hater". hate doesn't stem from nothing. there has to be a motive.

                    you are trying to say that my view on Calzaghe has nothing to do with his accomplishments, in other words it is "irrational". But I'm proving to you that my view on Calzaghe is purely based on his accomplishments therefore it is rational.
                    ........ Are you just trying to act ****** now? Let me rephrase my question for the last time, hopefully I'll get a real answer.

                    Why are you not giving Calzaghe credit for beating someone you said he needed to beat in order to be proven?

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                    • Originally posted by Kastrioti View Post
                      What is this? That's your reply? I don't care if your white and Canadian, I wouldn't care if you were Welsh and lived right next to Joe, it doesn't answer the question above.
                      My motive is putting boxers in their rightful place. Calzaghe is not nearly as great as he is being made out to be. There are fighters today that have accomplished more then Calzaghe and are not even on the p4p list. That is sad.

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