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  • Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
    Calzaghe is way overrated. He has yet to beat an elite boxer. How is he rated in the top 2 or 3 p4p? What has he done? I mean if he is so good, why hasn't he fought a great fighter. Kessler is the best he's fought and Kessler is barely an above average boxer. I'm not saying that Calzaghe is bad, but one of the best p4p? I don't think he belongs in the top 10 even. If he gets into the ring with Hopkins, Pavlik, Taylor, or Wright and beats either one of them, than he belongs, otherwise, he is way too overrated.
    Overrated by few underrated by many!!!!!!!!

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    • Originally posted by The Gunner View Post
      I just did....Hopkins is #3 P4P you questioned had Joe ever beat someone up that high....

      Lets see if you're true to your word and stop posting.
      Hopkins is 42 years old I don't care if he's p4p #1. p4p ratings are opinions, Hopkins' age isn't.

      RJJ was 39 years old and shot.

      Lacy lost to Tsypko and Mendoza after the Calz fight.

      Kessler's best wins are over Mundine and Andrade. how could he have such a rep when he hasn't done anything yet? an example of how Calzaghe fans boost every Calzaghe opponent "AFTER" he faces them.

      Why can't the truth be seen? I don't get it. Calzaghe is overrated. He isn't a **** fighter, but he is grossly overrated.

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      • LMAO @ this loser...
        Editing posts! SELF-INJECTED-OWNAGE!!!

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        • A lot of haters are mad that Calzaghe retired undefeated. I LOVE IT.

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          • Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
            There is no such thing as "twisted facts". A fact just is.

            You cannot argue with my earlier post. You won't even answer it because there is nothing at all to argue with. Not one single thing. I state hard facts, or otherwise I shut the **** up.

            If this was a fight, I'd have knocked your ass out and sent you home with your teeth in your pocket. To add insult to injury, you'd have to take the bus.
            lol, sad post.

            Hard facts, hahahaha. Lacy being a great fighter is a "hard fact"?

            if this was a fight, you'd be swinging and missing. I would hit you with a solid ko blow. <-- you see how lame that is?

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            • Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
              lol, sad post.

              Hard facts, hahahaha. Lacy being a great fighter is a "hard fact"?

              if this was a fight, you'd be swinging and missing. I would hit you with a solid ko blow. <-- you see how lame that is?
              You are being an absolute ****head. Do you actually realize this? It's not often I insult someone in public but I can't help it this time.

              Claiming I said "Lacy was a great fighter" falls exactly into the "twisted facts" category. Nobody said that. I said he was hyped to be "the next Tyson". That's true. America was massively on his nuts. True. Joe was an underdog even in his own country. True.

              Almost the entire boxing world said Joe would lose. True. I bet even you thought Lacy would KO Calzaghe. That's if you were even into boxing back then, which, going on your posts and complete lack of knowledge, may not be true.

              Please point out where exactly I said Lacy was a great fighter?



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              • Here. Let's clarify:

                Lacy: Don't ever ****ing lie and claim he wasn't the guy to beat before he fought Joe. You can't just revise history after the fact that Joe showed him up for who he really was. America especially was on his nuts. They called him "the next Tyson", and Joe was a big underdog, even in the UK. Then all of a sudden people start ****ting on Jeff, just like they are ****ting on Pavlik now. It's disgraceful how people build up a fighter, put ****loads of pressure on them and then just dump 'em in the trash can once they've been beaten. Would Chad Dawson have gone the same way? Highly likely.
                The part in bold says what I think of Lacy. Not that I think he's a great fighter, but someone who was never on Joe Calzaghe's level.

                Regardless, Jeff lacy deserves at least some respect, because he stood up like a man and took a severe beating for the full fight. The fight should have been stopped, just as the Jones fight should have been stopped.



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                Last edited by S A M U R A I; 02-09-2009, 10:03 PM.

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                • Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                  You are being an absolute ****head. Do you actually realize this? It's not often I insult someone in public but I can't help it this time.

                  Claiming I said "Lacy was a great fighter" falls exactly into the "twisted facts" category. Nobody said that. I said he was hyped to be "the next Tyson". That's true. America was massively on his nuts. True. Joe was an underdog even in his own country. True.

                  Almost the entire boxing world said Joe would lose. True. I bet even you thought Lacy would KO Calzaghe. That's if you were even into boxing back then, which, going on your posts and complete lack of knowledge, may not be true.

                  Please point out where exactly I said Lacy was a great fighter?
                  red apples green apples. if you are not saying that Lacy is a great fighter then you are agreeing with me. that is the exact reason I made this thread. what does it matter what "people" were saying what lacy was "suppose" to be? what did he end up being? nothing, thats what. if he went on to rule the smw division and beat every worthy contender, then that win would be worth something. but he lost to bums. Lacy's greatness was never a reality, just like Calzaghe's greatness.

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                  • Originally posted by kswizzy99 View Post
                    Hopkins is 42 years old I don't care if he's p4p #1. p4p ratings are opinions, Hopkins' age isn't.

                    RJJ was 39 years old and shot.

                    Lacy lost to Tsypko and Mendoza after the Calz fight.

                    Kessler's best wins are over Mundine and Andrade. how could he have such a rep when he hasn't done anything yet? an example of how Calzaghe fans boost every Calzaghe opponent "AFTER" he faces them.

                    Why can't the truth be seen? I don't get it. Calzaghe is overrated. He isn't a **** fighter, but he is grossly overrated.
                    Bernards one of my favorite fighters and you can ask any true Bernard fan if age is a factor with him. In Bernards own words "a 43 yo bernard hopkins would destroy a 33 yo bernard hopkins"

                    Hopkins is a freak of nature because of the way he has looked after his body......His ring inteligince is the main factor in his longevity though. His ring IQ is just so much better these days than it was 10-15 years ago. He could be hit cleanly back then against average fighters where these days great fighters struggle to do it.

                    You're excuse was not valid.....You're full of **** and know **** all about boxing....Stick to MMGAY.

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                    • Originally posted by The Gunner View Post
                      Bernards one of my favorite fighters and you can ask any true Bernard fan if age is a factor with him. In Bernards own words "a 43 yo bernard hopkins would destroy a 33 yo bernard hopkins"

                      Hopkins is a freak of nature because of the way he has looked after his body......His ring inteligince is the main factor in his longevity though. His ring IQ is just so much better these days than it was 10-15 years ago. He could be hit cleanly back then against average fighters where these days great fighters struggle to do it.

                      You're excuse was not valid.....You're full of **** and know **** all about boxing....Stick to MMGAY.
                      Bernard is just trying to hype himself. Watch his earlier fights and see if he has the same skills now that he did back then.

                      By the looks of your posts, you don't know **** about boxing. Stick to the 80's boxing cuz you haven't watched boxing in over 20 years by the looks of your avatar. <--- lame insult returned.

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