Calzaghe is overrated

[Technical_Skill]

Who cares if he is a draw in america?

You lot dont know what your missing

Who's you lot?

im in London right now

Nationality has nothing to do with the fact calzaghe is overrated on this forum, how the **** can a guy who has never fought one p4p fighter be p4p no 1 as some people are claiming, this year quite a few p4p's fought each other, this guy beats ****ing Kessler and some clowns now claim he is top 2 p4p. Its rediculous.

[moofo]

Who's you lot?

im in London right now

Nationality has nothing to do with the fact calzaghe is overrated on this forum, how the **** can a guy who has never fought one p4p fighter be p4p no 1 as some people are claiming, this year quite a few p4p's fought each other, this guy beats ****ing Kessler and some clowns now claim he is top 2 p4p. Its rediculous.

You talk about "P4P" like it really means something.
The truth is it is mythical unprovable nonsense which is only used as a bargaining & Media tool.

Fact is Calzaghe has beaten Better fighters than Hopkins and would piss all over anyone who Hopkins ever beat.

YET Bore-hard is touted as a P4P fighter.
A guy who lost to the best he faced yet still gets P4p recognition for what?
Calzaghe is undefeated and whether you like it or not his wins over Kessler and Lacy who was touted as the next Big thing at the time of his spanking are still bigger better fighters than most of Hopkins wins.

[Technical_Skill]

You talk about "P4P" like it really means something.
The truth is it is mythical unprovable nonsense which is only used as a bargaining & Media tool.

Fact is Calzaghe has beaten Better fighters than Hopkins and would piss all over anyone who Hopkins ever beat.
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Are you serious? So jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler are better fighters Than Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright? ermm i dont think so, hopkins has been in the ring with much better boxers than Calzaghe has, he also went the distance against a prime roy jones, calzaghe hasnt been in the ring with a fighter anywhere near the caliber of roy jones, mainy because he was busy fighting tocker pudwill and Kabery salem.

Anyhow calzaghe had got in the ring with either Roy Jones or James Toney he would have lost his unbeaten record, if you stayed in the same divison for years after all the great fighters quit or moved out of it and beat tocker pudwill's all day long you prolly would be unbeaten also.

I just wanna see him fight one p4p fighter, since his entire carrer is built up on about 3 fights, none of them against p4p material, the one great fighter he fought was a shot eubank who gave calzaghe real problems.

[Ryn0]

Are you serious? So jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler are better fighters Than Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright? ermm i dont think so, hopkins has been in the ring with much better boxers than Calzaghe has, he also went the distance against a prime roy jones, calzaghe hasnt been in the ring with a fighter anywhere near the caliber of roy jones, mainy because he was busy fighting tocker pudwill and Kabery salem.

Anyhow calzaghe had got in the ring with either Roy Jones or James Toney he would have lost his unbeaten record, if you stayed in the same divison for years after all the great fighters quit or moved out of it and beat tocker pudwill's all day long you prolly would be unbeaten also.

I just wanna see him fight one p4p fighter, since his entire carrer is built up on about 3 fights, none of them against p4p material, the one great fighter he fought was a shot eubank who gave calzaghe real problems.

Kessler is a better fighter than Tarver not Wright but wright was most successful at 154 he had never fought 175 skipping 168 to fight at 175. All of Hopkins career defining wins come against smaller men. Kudo's to him in the Tarver fight though, I respect his longevity but Calzaghes resume is better. He stayed at his weight class and cleared it out. He decisicively beat Kessler and Lacy, most people were on the edge for the fight and who to pick for a win in Zag-Kessler but Calzaghe dominated him.

[Technical_Skill]

Kessler is a better fighter than Tarver not Wright but wright was most successful at 154 he had never fought 175 skipping 168 to fight at 175. All of Hopkins career defining wins come against smaller men. Kudo's to him in the Tarver fight though, I respect his longevity but Calzaghes resume is better. He stayed at his weight class and cleared it out. He decisicively beat Kessler and Lacy, most people were on the edge for the fight and who to pick for a win in Zag-Kessler but Calzaghe dominated him.

Dude, Kessler is hype, you cant tell me he could go the full 12 with Roy Jones like Tarver did 1st time around. And i was picking calaghe to win easlily by the way, well before the fight actually happened. Bottom line is Hopkins has been in the ring with p4p fighters and great fighters, he won some and lost some. Calzaghe has been in the ring with one great fighter ever and apparently this is enough for some people to rate him as the best in the world. Its laughable, seriously, the guy has fought about 3 good fighters in 10 years and managed to not fight any of the greats in his era, you cant be serious about calzaghe being the best.

[moofo]

Are you serious? So jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler are better fighters Than Antonio Tarver and Winky Wright? ermm i dont think so, hopkins has been in the ring with much better boxers than Calzaghe has, he also went the distance against a prime roy jones, calzaghe hasnt been in the ring with a fighter anywhere near the caliber of roy jones, mainy because he was busy fighting tocker pudwill and Kabery salem.

Anyhow calzaghe had got in the ring with either Roy Jones or James Toney he would have lost his unbeaten record, if you stayed in the same divison for years after all the great fighters quit or moved out of it and beat tocker pudwill's all day long you prolly would be unbeaten also.

I just wanna see him fight one p4p fighter, since his entire carrer is built up on about 3 fights, none of them against p4p material, the one great fighter he fought was a shot eubank who gave calzaghe real problems.

Listen arsehole.
Do you think Winky would beat Calzaghe & Kessler?
Tarver was a washed up bum who had been inactive you ****ing dummy.
And Bore-hard being a natural Light heavy didn't really mean he had done anything spectacular in fighting a guy his own size did it?

Borehard has LOST to EVERY TOP fighter in their prime he has faced his own size.
Please tell me who Hopkins has BEATEN that Calzaghe couldn't piss on?

[Ryn0]

Dude, Kessler is hype, you cant tell me he could go the full 12 with Roy Jones like Tarver did 1st time around. And i was picking calaghe to win easlily by the way, well before the fight actually happened. Bottom line is Hopkins has been in the ring with p4p fighters and great fighters, he won some and lost some. Calzaghe has been in the ring with one great fighter ever and apparently this is enough for some people to rate him as the best in the world. Its laughable, seriously, the guy has fought about 3 good fighters in 10 years and managed to not fight any of the greats in his era, you cant be serious about calzaghe being the best.

did i ever say he was the best? I rate him around 2-3 contending with pacman. Mayweather is above both of them and they are no threat to him. Kessler is not hype and the RJJ statement is mute. styles make fights and Tarver's style as is evident in 3 fights give Roy hell. whereas Hopkins handed his ass to him. RJJ beat Hopkins earlier. Styles make fights. O and yes i think Kessler can go the full 12 with RJJ fighters such as julio ceasar gonzalez and David Telesco did in RJJ prime before he moved to heavy and was weight drained.

[big paulie]

Dude, Kessler is hype, you cant tell me he could go the full 12 with Roy Jones like Tarver did 1st time around. And i was picking calaghe to win easlily by the way, well before the fight actually happened. Bottom line is Hopkins has been in the ring with p4p fighters and great fighters, he won some and lost some. Calzaghe has been in the ring with one great fighter ever and apparently this is enough for some people to rate him as the best in the world. Its laughable, seriously, the guy has fought about 3 good fighters in 10 years and managed to not fight any of the greats in his era, you cant be serious about calzaghe being the best.

your right, 10 years as champ and 2 big fights on his resume and in hindsight lacy was just an overated kid with what, 19fights under his belt, yeah he beat a good fighter in kessler but never dominated him. calzaghe should of gone to the states 5 years ago and chased jones and hopkins but decided to stay in cardiff an get floored by kabery salem. calzaghe has been promoted brilliantly and is a good fighter but he wouldnt beat a prime jones, hopkins, benn, eubank. he just got by a eubank who had 2 weeks notice and a stone to lose

[Technical_Skill]

Listen arsehole.
Do you think Winky would beat Calzaghe & Kessler?
Tarver was a washed up bum who had been inactive you ****ing dummy.
And Bore-hard being a natural Light heavy didn't really mean he had done anything spectacular in fighting a guy his own size did it?

Borehard has LOST to EVERY TOP fighter in their prime he has faced his own size.
Please tell me who Hopkins has BEATEN that Calzaghe couldn't piss on?

Are you nuts or summin, you think Kessler could actually beat a prime winky if weight wasnt an issue, ermmm lets see, who the **** has kessler beat?

Libero andrade, and a shot markus beyer and from that you deduct he could actually beat winky wright if weight wasnt a factor.



And lets say weight is a factor, you think calzaghe would piss on winky wright? after struggling with ****ing sakio Bika and byron Michell?

Get it right, Calzaghe hasnt faced ONE p4p fighter.

Hasnt faced one PRIME great fighter, unless you wanna count Tocker pudwill, evans ashira and Kabery salem, **** it or Peter manfredo who isnt even a natural 168 pounder.

Just stop polishing calzaghe's ball sack for two seconds and look at the facts,

There is no point in a being calzaghe fan-stan-groupie, because calzaghe's proper groupies get paid, you defend him for nothing and still have to queue up to collect Jobseeker's allowance in the morining.

[moofo]

Are you nuts or summin, you think Kessler could actually beat a prime winky if weight wasnt an issue, ermmm lets see, who the **** has kessler beat?

Libero andrade, and a shot markus beyer and from that you deduct he could actually beat winky wright if weight wasnt a factor.



And lets say weight is a factor, you think calzaghe would piss on winky wright? after struggling with ****ing sakio Bika and byron Michell?

Get it right, Calzaghe hasnt faced ONE p4p fighter.

Hasnt faced one PRIME great fighter, unless you wanna count Tocker pudwill, evans ashira and Kabery salem, **** it or Peter manfredo who isnt even a natural 168 pounder.

Just stop polishing calzaghe's ball sack for two seconds and look at the facts,

There is no point in being calzaghe fan-stan-groupie, because calzaghe's proper groupies get paid, you defend him for nothing and still have to queue up to collect Jobseeker's allowance in the morining.

There you go again with your P4P nonsense.
IT ISN'T REAL.
And you FAILED to answer my question.

And I will tell you something else.
I am not a Fan of Calzaghe.
And I've never collected Benefits in my life you ignorant ****.
I run my own Business and have mugs like you who do my bidding so don't be bitter about that.
Your Opinion isn't the ****ing grail arsehole.
And the fact is Calzaghe would beat Anyone who Bore hard ever faced.
Fact that you cannot deny.
Roy admitted ducking Joe because he was too dangerous as well you ****ing mug.
If Calzaghe isn't in your P4P list then Bore hard has no place there either.
Especially when he has lost 2 of his last 4.
Calzaghe has beaten everyone of worth in his division at this current moment.
Something a few other so called P4P fighters have failed to do.
Thats me done with you anyway because I am sick of you thick ****s on this site...its like talking to the ****ing wall.