To those PBF fans who say "Cotto barely beat SSM"

[Fox McCloud]

Look at Oscar in the first Mosley fight and then look at Oscar vs Floyd. If you don't notice a huge difference in speed, then I can't help you.

Lol, I guess you are slow if you aren't as fast as you have ever been? Hmm...

Mosley was a ****ing glacier against Cotto then.

[Easy-E]

Look at Oscar in the first Mosley fight and then look at Oscar vs Floyd. If you don't notice a huge difference in speed, then I can't help you.

Oscar still has speed, he looked slow in comparison to Floyd, but he definitly still is fast.

[JoeR]

Cotto's win over Mosley is more credible to me. It's a huge win.

The fact that Shane wasn't all there means nothing. If Cotto clears the table and takes all the chips at the end that's what it's all about.

Miguel might have beaten Mosley with something else if Shane was coming back with more.. We'll never know. I know Miguel was ready and focused for seemingly anything. That was clear.

Whats up Addison, its been a while. I dint read all of the pages in this thread, but what I understood was that there is a debate about who beat the better opponent. The easier way to answer this question is: if DLH and Mosley fight right now, who would win? I think Mosley has aged better than DLH and if they fought , Mosley would beat DLH again. So in that sense, I believe Cotto's win over Mosley was more impresive than PBF's win against DLH. Does that mean Cotto is a better fighter than Mayweather? Of course not. Does that mean that Cotto would beat PBF? Of course not. I am a huge Cotto fan, and my brother knows it. My brother only watches Trinidad and Cotto fights. He doesnt know much about boxing. But he watched Hatton/PBF with me; and after the fight, he looked at me straight in the eyes and said: " If Cotto ever fights that guy, he is gonna lose"

[Tuggers1986]

Both Cotto and PBF recently stepped in the ring with "has-been" champions. The margin at which both Cotto and PBF victored over these former champions is very similar; by a small margin. Although this is the case, many of you mention that Cotto was barely able to beat a "has-been" champion in SSM but fail to mention the same concerning PBF over DLH? Many of you also fail to admit that Cotto's win over SSM is more significant than PBF over DLH. Comparing the two opposing fighters (DLH and SSM) SSM has had the more significant career as of late, especially when DLH has not won a significant fight in over 4 years, and SSM is 5-1 in his last 6 fights(including the loss to cotto). One has to admit that SSM is a more credible opponent at this point in his career, if you can't see that, you are blind and biased.

Some has-been considering he'd still beat 90% of Welters out there. Cotto's win over Mosley is bigger than PBF over DLH. Although I don't think shane was at his best that night.

[wmute]

A judge scored Floyd-ODLH 113 - 115 Oscar.

Yeah Kazmarecz or whatever his name, the judge who wrote a pamphlet (I am serious) on how effective aggression is not only more important than defense and generalship, but also on par with punches landed. I think he also left out "effective" in front of aggression, but I am not sure.

[C'MONMANG']

Shane's last significant win came 5 years ago, and that was against Oscar, which was also heavily disputed.

And if you even murmur the name "Vargas" and the world "significant" in the same sentence, you should be slapped.

how bout Collazo? just ask Hatton about him.

man you haters are the worst,

[C'MONMANG']

Lol, I guess you are slow if you aren't as fast as you have ever been? Hmm...

Mosley was a ****ing glacier against Cotto then.

how do you know? you said so yourself that you just became a boxing fan last year.

[C'MONMANG']

Based on what?
Floyd won 8-4, and the Cotto Mosley fight could have gone either way. Just because the scores were closer, doesnt mean the FIGHT was closer. (Duh)
You just showed that Shane has won a few of his last fights, but never over anyone significant. (Vargas twice, Collazo, Jose Luis Cruz and David Estrada)
Cotto would have a tougher time with DLH than he would Mosley.
And just because you have an opinion, doesnt mean anyone who holds an alternate opinion is blind or biased.
Terrible post.

based on the fact that Shane was still very active and Dela had only one fight in THREE years prior to fighting Floyd.

yes, its that simple LOGIC that we like to use in here sometimes

[Kobe Bryant]

Shane is done and was old on fight night. Cotto embarrased him. He beat him to the punch the whole night. And Mosley could never land anything clean. Cotto did agreat job. But I think Oscar has more in the tank becuase he only fights once a year. And Floyd could not take over until the later rounds when Oscar fades.

Think about this Shane was in great shape and was too slow to connect cleanly on Cotto. Yet Oscar who weighed in about 160+ against Floyd still had the handspeed to catch Floyd with the jab and land a few good shots upstairs.

[-Hyperion-]

Shane is done and was old on fight night. Cotto embarrased him. He beat him to the punch the whole night. And Mosley could never land anything clean. Cotto did agreat job. But I think Oscar has more in the tank becuase he only fights once a year. And Floyd could not take over until the later rounds when Oscar fades.

Think about this Shane was in great shape and was too slow to connect cleanly on Cotto. Yet Oscar who weighed in about 160+ against Floyd still had the handspeed to catch Floyd with the jab and land a few good shots upstairs.

AGREED.....

that being said, the MOsley-Cotto fight was close but yeah Shane was survivng on toughness and made it close with flashiness and trying hard as ****, but hes done, shot to pieces.....