To those PBF fans who say "Cotto barely beat SSM"

**Addison** · 12-26-2007, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by machotime

Both Cotto and PBF recently stepped in the ring with "has-been" champions. The margin at which both Cotto and PBF victored over these former champions is very similar; by a small margin. Although this is the case, many of you mention that Cotto was barely able to beat a "has-been" champion in SSM but fail to mention the same concerning PBF over DLH? Many of you also fail to admit that Cotto's win over SSM is more significant than PBF over DLH. Comparing the two opposing fighters (DLH and SSM) SSM has had the more significant career as of late, especially when DLH has not won a significant fight in over 4 years, and SSM is 5-1 in his last 6 fights(including the loss to cotto). One has to admit that SSM is a more credible opponent at this point in his career, if you can't see that, you are blind and biased.

That's a little bit of an incomplete thought though.. What people have said is that Cotto barely beat a subpar Mosley. Subpar.

**freedom213** · 12-26-2007, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Addison

That's a little bit of an incomplete thought though.. What people have said is that Cotto barely beat a subpar Mosley. Subpar.

If SSM had gotten the nod how many people would have been saying Mosley was Subpar? Also Subpar to what, the SSM pre Forrest? OK I might agree to that. It was obvious that SSM still had far more in the tank than Oscar. But this is just more fodder and although the subject is a little tweaked more of the same old song and dance about when/if Cotto and Mayweather will fight and who will be the victor.

**Addison** · 12-26-2007, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by freedom213

If SSM had gotten the nod how many people would have been saying Mosley was Subpar? Also Subpar to what, the SSM pre Forrest? OK I might agree to that. It was obvious that SSM still had far more in the tank than Oscar. But this is just more fodder and although the subject is a little tweaked more of the same old song and dance about when/if Cotto and Mayweather will fight and who will be the victor.

To you, I guess? I haven't heard that from anyone, anywhere.

**THE REAL NINJA** · 12-26-2007, 09:05 PM

Floyd fans

**deliveryman** · 12-26-2007, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by machotime

Both Cotto and PBF recently stepped in the ring with "has-been" champions. The margin at which both Cotto and PBF victored over these former champions is very similar; by a small margin. Although this is the case, many of you mention that Cotto was barely able to beat a "has-been" champion in SSM but fail to mention the same concerning PBF over DLH? Many of you also fail to admit that Cotto's win over SSM is more significant than PBF over DLH. Comparing the two opposing fighters (DLH and SSM) SSM has had the more significant career as of late, especially when DLH has not won a significant fight in over 4 years, and SSM is 5-1 in his last 6 fights(including the loss to cotto). One has to admit that SSM is a more credible opponent at this point in his career, if you can't see that, you are blind and biased.

Shane's last significant win came 5 years ago, and that was against Oscar, which was also heavily disputed.

And if you even murmur the name "Vargas" and the world "significant" in the same sentence, you should be slapped.

**Jim Jeffries** · 12-26-2007, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Addison

That's a little bit of an incomplete thought though.. What people have said is that Cotto barely beat a subpar Mosley. Subpar.

And DLH was not subpar? I watch Oscar in either of his fights with Mosley and he's not anywhere close to what he used to be now.

**Jim Jeffries** · 12-26-2007, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by deliveryman

Shane's last significant win came 5 years ago, and that was against Oscar, which was also heavily disputed.

And if you even murmur the name "Vargas" and the world "significant" in the same sentence, you should be slapped.

Mosley's domination of Collazo, who arguably beat Hatton (definitely had him dead on his feet in the 12th and scored what should have been a knockdown) was significant enough to earn him a big payday against Cotto.

**deliveryman** · 12-26-2007, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by gavinz1970

Mosley's domination of Collazo, who arguably beat Hatton (definitely had him dead on his feet in the 12th and scored what should have been a knockdown) was significant enough to earn him a big payday against Cotto.

If you consider a win over Collazo significant, then you have to consider a win over Mayorga significant.

**SkillspayBills** · 12-26-2007, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by gavinz1970

Mosley's domination of Collazo, who arguably beat Hatton (definitely had him dead on his feet in the 12th and scored what should have been a knockdown) was significant enough to earn him a big payday against Cotto.

Oscar had just DOMINATED Mayorga. It was a one sided beating. You seem to overlook that though.

To those PBF fans who say "Cotto barely beat SSM"