To those PBF fans who say "Cotto barely beat SSM"

[old68]

He looked like a ****** against Torres, because he picked the worst possible strategy to fight him.

TOE-TO-TOE WITH A HUGE PUNCHER!

Why the **** would anyone who is serious about their career do that?

I didn't praise the mans strategy, I just pointed out that Cotto never looked all that fast, not even in the Mosley fight. I thought he looked slick, which I believe has more to do with timing than speed. Who cares why he fought like he did against Torres, maybe he thought he could take the punches, he didn't foresee the effects of weight drain, or plain poor strategy. His strategy is not the discussion at hand, anyway.

[machotime]

Your logic won't be creating a skewed discussion here, my friend.

****ty night, you're goddamn right. YEP. Read what I wrote. Don't just respond with emotion as a Cotto fan. See the truth. See reality.


And Oscar looked slow??? Uh, ok..

Answer me this; Do you think that Cotto's win over SSM is not at least as credible as PBF's win over DLH?

And yes, DLH ran out of gas.... as usual.

[Easy-E]

Both Cotto and PBF recently stepped in the ring with "has-been" champions. The margin at which both Cotto and PBF victored over these former champions is very similar; by a small margin. Although this is the case, many of you mention that Cotto was barely able to beat a "has-been" champion in SSM but fail to mention the same concerning PBF over DLH? Many of you also fail to admit that Cotto's win over SSM is more significant than PBF over DLH. Comparing the two opposing fighters (DLH and SSM) SSM has had the more significant career as of late, especially when DLH has not won a significant fight in over 4 years, and SSM is 5-1 in his last 6 fights(including the loss to cotto). One has to admit that SSM is a more credible opponent at this point in his career, if you can't see that, you are blind and biased.

Based on what?
Floyd won 8-4, and the Cotto Mosley fight could have gone either way. Just because the scores were closer, doesnt mean the FIGHT was closer. (Duh)
You just showed that Shane has won a few of his last fights, but never over anyone significant. (Vargas twice, Collazo, Jose Luis Cruz and David Estrada)
Cotto would have a tougher time with DLH than he would Mosley.
And just because you have an opinion, doesnt mean anyone who holds an alternate opinion is blind or biased.
Terrible post.

[Easy-E]

Answer me this; Do you think that Cotto's win over SSM is not at least as credible as PBF's win over DLH?

And yes, DLH ran out of gas.... as usual.

I think Floyds win at 154 was more significant than Cottos win over Mosley.

[warp1432]

The thing is, Cotto did barely pull out a decision against Mosley. To be honest I had Mosley winning, but I could have seen it for Cotto.

HOWEVER, Cotto deserves a shot at Mayweather because Mosley stilll was great. He also beat Judah and some other guys, so he deserves a shot.

Beating Mosley/De La Hoya is a plus for any fighter today because they were both great, even if they were past their primes.

De La Hoya would beat mostly anyone at 154 and Mosley would beat mostly anyone at 147.

[CottoBreaksMen]

That's a little bit of an incomplete thought though.. What people have said is that Cotto barely beat a subpar Mosley. Subpar.

Steroidal Mosley. Steroidal.

It doesn't matter.. PBF is NOT Mosley. Now let's get on FLO-JO to actually fight a contender and not a hero from 1990.

[CottoBreaksMen]

He looked like a ****** against Torres, because he picked the worst possible strategy to fight him.

TOE-TO-TOE WITH A HUGE PUNCHER!

Why the **** would anyone who is serious about their career do that?

Do what? Knock Torres the **** out? Oh.

[Addison]

Answer me this; Do you think that Cotto's win over SSM is not at least as credible as PBF's win over DLH?

And yes, DLH ran out of gas.... as usual.

Cotto's win over Mosley is more credible to me. It's a huge win.

The fact that Shane wasn't all there means nothing. If Cotto clears the table and takes all the chips at the end that's what it's all about.

Miguel might have beaten Mosley with something else if Shane was coming back with more.. We'll never know. I know Miguel was ready and focused for seemingly anything. That was clear.

[oldgringo]

He looked like a ****** against Torres, because he picked the worst possible strategy to fight him.

TOE-TO-TOE WITH A HUGE PUNCHER!

Why the **** would anyone who is serious about their career do that?

Oh boy.

He didn't look like a ******. He looked like a guy who was drained from making weight first and foremost. Quite sluggish in fact.

Secondly, he looked like he had no idea what Torres was going to bring to the table, much like every other boxing fan not living in Columbia. You certainly knew nothing of Torres before Cotto, nor did I or anyone else on this site. He was nothing more than an import with a gaudy record against overmatched hometown foes. Torres turned out to be a dynamic power puncher with a lot of heart. A FAR cry from Gianluca Branco. It's no coincidence that he's now a major player at 140.

The fight was incredible and both men showed what true championship boxing is all about. It's easy to say that Cotto should not have engaged with Torres as much as he did in retrospect, but he fought his fight and ultimately got off the canvas to stop Torres in devastating fashion.

In the long run that fight raised Cotto's profile. It showed that he has some of the intangibles necessary to be one of the best fighters in the sport.

[Jim Jeffries]

Your logic won't be creating a skewed discussion here, my friend.

****ty night, you're goddamn right. YEP. Read what I wrote. Don't just respond with emotion as a Cotto fan. See the truth. See reality.


And Oscar looked slow??? Uh, ok..

Look at Oscar in the first Mosley fight and then look at Oscar vs Floyd. If you don't notice a huge difference in speed, then I can't help you.