To those PBF fans who say "Cotto barely beat SSM"

[Addison]

I'm just making a point, because I can. The ring had some guy there that scored it for Mosley, but admitted it could have gone either way. At the end of the day Floyd won a SD and Cotto won a UD so I'd rather we don't bull**** about one winning by less than another.

Ok, I accept your point. It doesn't have much to do with what I'm talking about, but I see where you're coming from.

[old68]

Oscar and Mayweather are 4 years apart.
Cotto and Mosley are almost 10 years apart.

Any comments?

Another point: How can you say Mosley didn't look subpar if Cotto was looking fast and a boxer vs him? Yet against Judah he didn't look that fast now did he?

Yet against judah Cotto won by TKO, so I'd say he looked pretty fkin good. This now leads us to discuss fights with Chopchop, and Victorino Sosa.



PS I forgot my comment, my comment is; Mosley beat Oscar... twice.

[SkillspayBills]

Yet against judah Cotto won by TKO, so I'd say he looked pretty fkin good. This now leads us to discuss fights with Chopchop, and Victorino Sosa.



PS I forgot my comment, my comment is; Mosley beat Oscar... twice.

He didn't say Cotto didn't look good he said Cotto didn't look FAST. Which is a factual statement if you watch the fight.

[machotime]

Yep, that's well stated. ^


Cotto was sensational, but Mosley was subpar. Again, if someone of Shane Mosley's caliber needs basic instruction on Boxing fundamentals there's something wrong with the picture. Shane was very easy to hit - more so than normal, and his reflexes and timing were up and down, up and down. Specifically, Shane Mosley was very sporadic against Cotto. Inconsistent. Even dreamy, and out of it.. I don't think he's shot, old, or any of that business - but he had a ****ty night. That we can be sure of.

This is Boxing. The whole idea is to be sharp. Anything less than that is imminent disaster. Cotto was sharp. I'll tell you that..

****ty night?? I guess all of Cotto's opponents have "****ty nights" once they get in the ring with him.

Judah, Quintana, and Mosley have all agreed on something very similar "Cotto is alot faster than he appears".

Please understand that I am not arguing that Cotto will beat PBF, as a matter of fact I would bet on PBF winning by slim UD, but if anyone fails to admit that Cotto is the MOST credible opponent that PBF could possibly face and would be PBF's BIGGEST test, then they seriously have one of PBF's nuts in their mouth...

My point is that people have the nerve to legitimize PBF's win over DLH but fail to do the same for Cotto's win over SSM, and that to me is ridiculous...

DLH was slow, and he obviously could not exert himself enough (as usual) to pull the decision in his favor, and none of PBF's fans seem to admit or see that.

[SkillspayBills]

I've heard this talk about De La Hoya not having enough left, most notably from Ricky Hatton. I think that was a polite way of saying Oscar couldn't close the show - but not because of fatigue or ring-wear. De La Hoya was getting lanced by Floyd's right hands. De La Hoya was confused by Mayweather's offensive assault.

Oscar was in tremendous shape and never looked otherwise. He was getting punched in the face by a faster, more skilled fighter. That's it.

I always found it odd that people say "Oscar gassed that is why he lost he could have destroyed Floyd haad he had more energy. However they fail to leave out Floyd IS the reason he was getting tired by the end of the bout, being 34 didn't help it as well though.

[old68]

He didn't say Cotto didn't look good he said Cotto didn't look FAST. Which is a factual statement if you watch the fight.

He also prepared for, and fought, a different fight. I didnt think Cotto looked incredibly fast against Mosley myself. I thought his timing was good and thus he looked slick. he did not look slick against Judah, but he won by KO. He did not look slick or fast against Ricardo Torres, but he won by KO. I must have misread.

The truth of the matter is that pre-cotto Mosley was a beast, the biggest threat to FMJ, and as soon as he lost he's some old, over the hill bum that looked slow.

[Fox McCloud]

He also prepared for, and fought, a different fight. I didnt think Cotto looked incredibly fast against Mosley myself. I thought his timing was good and thus he looked slick. he did not look slick against Judah, but he won by KO. He did not look slick or fast against Ricardo Torres, but he won by KO. I must have misread.

He looked like a ****** against Torres, because he picked the worst possible strategy to fight him.

TOE-TO-TOE WITH A HUGE PUNCHER!

Why the **** would anyone who is serious about their career do that?

[Mozza]

I always found it odd that people say "Oscar gassed that is why he lost he could have destroyed Floyd haad he had more energy. However they fail to leave out Floyd IS the reason he was getting tired by the end of the bout, being 34 didn't help it as well though.

There can be no question that Oscar ran out of steam but he lost the fight because he ran out of ideas.

[Addison]

****ty night?? I guess all of Cotto's opponents have "****ty nights" once they get in the ring with him.

Judah, Quintana, and Mosley have all agreed on something very similar "Cotto is alot faster than he appears".

Please understand that I am not arguing that Cotto will beat PBF, as a matter of fact I would bet on PBF winning by slim UD, but if anyone fails to admit that Cotto is the MOST credible opponent that PBF could possibly face and would be PBF's BIGGEST test, then they seriously have one of PBF's nuts in their mouth...

My point is that people have the nerve to legitimize PBF's win over DLH but fail to do the same for Cotto's win over SSM, and that to me is ridiculous...

DLH was slow, and he obviously could not exert himself enough (as usual) to pull the decision in his favor, and none of PBF's fans seem to admit or see that.

Your logic won't be creating a skewed discussion here, my friend.

****ty night, you're goddamn right. YEP. Read what I wrote. Don't just respond with emotion as a Cotto fan. See the truth. See reality.


And Oscar looked slow??? Uh, ok..

[Addison]

There can be no question that Oscar ran out of steam but he lost the fight because he ran out of ideas.

Well stated, agreed.