To those PBF fans who say "Cotto barely beat SSM"

[Jim Jeffries]

Oscar had just DOMINATED Mayorga. It was a one sided beating. You seem to overlook that though.

That was a year prior to the Mayweather fight, with no fights in between. What about the 20 months before the Mayorga fight? Z e r o fights.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Both Cotto and PBF recently stepped in the ring with "has-been" champions. The margin at which both Cotto and PBF victored over these former champions is very similar; by a small margin. Although this is the case, many of you mention that Cotto was barely able to beat a "has-been" champion in SSM but fail to mention the same concerning PBF over DLH? Many of you also fail to admit that Cotto's win over SSM is more significant than PBF over DLH. Comparing the two opposing fighters (DLH and SSM) SSM has had the more significant career as of late, especially when DLH has not won a significant fight in over 4 years, and SSM is 5-1 in his last 6 fights(including the loss to cotto). One has to admit that SSM is a more credible opponent at this point in his career, if you can't see that, you are blind and biased.

"I never got hit harder then the man that hit me hardest, who hit me pretty damn hard, in which, I got hit hard...

"I wish I never got hit by B Hop..."
Signed by Tito Tinindad...
Roy Jones jr.
You'll see it....

[Jim Jeffries]

In the two years leading up to their fights with Cotto and Mayweather respectively, Shane had back to back knockout wins over Vargas and a dominating performance over Collazo, Oscar had the Mayorga win.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Both Cotto and PBF recently stepped in the ring with "has-been" champions. The margin at which both Cotto and PBF victored over these former champions is very similar; by a small margin. Although this is the case, many of you mention that Cotto was barely able to beat a "has-been" champion in SSM but fail to mention the same concerning PBF over DLH? Many of you also fail to admit that Cotto's win over SSM is more significant than PBF over DLH. Comparing the two opposing fighters (DLH and SSM) SSM has had the more significant career as of late, especially when DLH has not won a significant fight in over 4 years, and SSM is 5-1 in his last 6 fights(including the loss to cotto). One has to admit that SSM is a more credible opponent at this point in his career, if you can't see that, you are blind and biased.

Some of Shane's wins were over Vargas. A guy that Oscar beat up years ago. To be fair, Oscar would have that record vs the guys Shane fought.

Would Shane have beaten Hopkins?

[Jim Jeffries]

Some of Shane's wins were over Vargas. A guy that Oscar beat up years ago. To be fair, Oscar would have that record vs the guys Shane fought.

Would Shane have beaten Hopkins?

Did Oscar beat him? What's your point? Shane would have put on a better showing than Oscar did and would not have gotten knocked out. At the same 156 catchweight, I think Shane would have given a respectable performance against Bernard, and possibly gotten a split decision.

[robjr]

That's a little bit of an incomplete thought though.. What people have said is that Cotto barely beat a subpar Mosley. Subpar.

this is true.

[Sweet Pea 50]

In the two years leading up to their fights with Cotto and Mayweather respectively, Shane had back to back knockout wins over Vargas and a dominating performance over Collazo, Oscar had the Mayorga win.

Mayweather by U.D.
If not worse...
Who are you talking about again....

[postmortem]

why do people try to take awys from either of these fighters. So mosely wasn't in his prime, so what, that doesn't mean that he still isn't a heck of a fighter. Cotto impressed me with his ability to take a punch, his timing and his speed both looked greatly improved since the judah fight. True de la hoya might have past his prime too but i don't think there were any welter's on may 5th that could have won that fight other than floyd. Why do people seem to forget that floyd had no business fighting at jr middle and that is why on fight night he weighed the same as he would have for a fight at 147. Shane and Oscar may not be great anymore but they are both still good, there is no need to act like they are bums.

[Jim Jeffries]

Mayweather by U.D.
If not worse...
Who are you talking about again....

I hope you're not seriously suggesting that Floyd knocks out Shane. Please tell me that's not what you're saying.

[freedom213]

To you, I guess? I haven't heard that from anyone, anywhere.

Im sorry you're right, as usual.