Antonio Margarito has become the most overrated fighter in boxing

[Allucard]

reading this thread it amazes me how people want to discredit margarito as some bum. Like he did not exist before 2006. Weather you guys want to admit it or not margarito was deserving of a shot to the undisputed welter champ it didnt matter who it was mayweather, judah, baldo, at that time. he has been the longest rank welter in the top ten and has defeated the most top ten contenders (the ring rankings) than anyone else in the division.

he lost to williams now hes got to climb his way back to the top.

he has been turned down by mosely, mayweather, they chose not to fight him risk versus reward if that doesnt tell you something you are an idiot
or someone who hates margarito because some of his delusional fans, samething can be said about floyd im sure his crazy fans that defend him at every turn have turned once floyd fans to dislike him (it did for me)

the burden is on floyd (not you fans)to defend his championship at welter against the most deserving challenger

why should he fight someone he already know he is going to win? I dont know probably because its his job. why do you think he fought mitchell, bruseles, baldo?

What surprise me most what length people will go to defend their favorite fighter. They lose all common sense. Margarito was the #1 rank contender and he doesnt deserve to be in the ring with floyd,and now cotto (in future williams) but you floyd boys will say that cotto doesnt deserve to be in the ring with him

Well who the **** does!

Nobody I guess right.
floyd is only the champ in boxing deepest division yet their is no one deserving enough to be in the ring with floyd

You have a point there but it's much easier to defend Floyd, the arguably p4p king, than Margarito (or any other fighter) right now.

[Fox McCloud]

You're the one who likes to talk **** instead of keeping to the subject at hand.

I couldn't resist it was too easy of a come back, seriously, you are delusional if you think Margarito isn't a good fighter.

Margarito is a good fighter.

The problem is, he is a good fighter at 147, which is pretty clearly the best division in boxing.

Being a good fighter isn't enough to get you a shot at the man.

He can prove that he deserves it if he does something like beating Cotto later this year though.

I really don't know who would deserve a shot at Floyd more at that point, Williams or Margarito.

[nozorok]

reading this thread it amazes me how people want to discredit margarito as some bum. Like he did not exist before 2006. Weather you guys want to admit it or not margarito was deserving of a shot to the undisputed welter champ it didnt matter who it was mayweather, judah, baldo, at that time. he has been the longest rank welter in the top ten and has defeated the most top ten contenders (the ring rankings) than anyone else in the division.

he lost to williams now hes got to climb his way back to the top.

he has been turned down by mosely, mayweather, they chose not to fight him risk versus reward if that doesnt tell you something you are an idiot
or someone who hates margarito because some of his delusional fans, samething can be said about floyd im sure his crazy fans that defend him at every turn have turned once floyd fans to dislike him (it did for me)

the burden is on floyd (not you fans)to defend his championship at welter against the most deserving challenger

why should he fight someone he already know he is going to win? I dont know probably because its his job. why do you think he fought mitchell, bruseles, baldo?

What surprise me most what length people will go to defend their favorite fighter. They lose all common sense. Margarito was the #1 rank contender and he doesnt deserve to be in the ring with floyd,and now cotto (in future williams) but you floyd boys will say that cotto doesnt deserve to be in the ring with him

Well who the **** does!

Nobody I guess right.
floyd is only the champ in boxing deepest division yet their is no one deserving enough to be in the ring with floyd

Finally a post that makes sense in this extended thread. Here's some more facts that detractors will probably just overlook without acknowledging.

1. Margarito was the longest reigning welterweight champ in the division and was ranked by Ring magazine for almost 7 years in its Top Ten Rankings
2. Has faced more Top Ten ranked fighters at 147 then any other active welterweight
3. Was considered the most underrated and avoided fighter in the division long before Floyd or Cotto ever stepped foot into 147
4. Was ducked by Spinks, Judah, Baldomir and Mayweather so he really had no chance of unifying the belts and becoming the man
5. Ranked #1 by Ring mag when he tried to face Judah, Baldomir and then Mayweather

Margarito may not possess ATG skills or talent but to say he is a bum or doesn't deserve a chance at facing more popular boxers is the essence of idiocy.

[Mr. Ryan]

You're the one who likes to talk **** instead of keeping to the subject at hand.

I couldn't resist it was too easy of a come back, seriously, you are delusional if you think Margarito isn't a good fighter.

I've said at numerous points in this thread that I thought Margarito is a good fighter. I just think that a lot of his fans, and I know you know which ones I'm referring to, do Margarito a great disservice by how highly you speak of this guy without any immediately recognizable wins on his ledger.

I bet if Margarito was confronted by some of the things that are said about him by some of his fans on this board, he'd be like "WTF, I'm really not that good."

[2120]

I bet if Margarito was confronted by some of the things that are said about him by some of his fans on this board, he'd be like "WTF, I'm really not that good."

Margarito might put some of his delusional fans on check.

the sad thing is that mayweather wouldnt because he is his biggest delusional fans.

floyd has accomplished more than any other fight in history in his eyes and his delusional fans as well.

Their plenty subjective fans for margarito and floyd but for anyone to write a piece that is not subjective you have to question what kind of fan he is.

[Jim Jeffries]

Oscar only had 2 fights at 130, his 12th and 13th fight, compared to the 27 that Floyd had.

Oscar was coming down from 160 (sort of) compared to Floyd coming up from 147.

Please tell me that you don't actually think there wasn't a huge size advantage for De La Hoya.

DLH was 135 or less for his first 20 fights.


Tale of the tape:


Mayweather De La Hoya
Height 5' 8 3/4" 5' 10 1/2"
Reach 72" 72"
Neck 16 1/2" 15 1/2"
Chest 38 1/2" 39"
Bicep 12 1/2" 13 3/4"
Forearm 11" 12"
Wrist 7" 7"
Fist 8" 9"
Waist 31" 31 3/4"
Thigh 22" 21"
Calf 15" 13 1/2"
Ankle 9 1/2" 7 1/2"

Not really a huge size advantage for a 34 year old with one fight in over 2 1/2 years and who had arguably lost 3 of his last 4 fights.

[DiegoFuego]

Margarito sucks

[Fox McCloud]

DLH was 135 or less for his first 20 fights.


Tale of the tape:


Mayweather De La Hoya
Height 5' 8 3/4" 5' 10 1/2"
Reach 72" 72"
Neck 16 1/2" 15 1/2"
Chest 38 1/2" 39"
Bicep 12 1/2" 13 3/4"
Forearm 11" 12"
Wrist 7" 7"
Fist 8" 9"
Waist 31" 31 3/4"
Thigh 22" 21"
Calf 15" 13 1/2"
Ankle 9 1/2" 7 1/2"

Not really a huge size advantage for a 34 year old with one fight in over 2 1/2 years and who had arguably lost 3 of his last 4 fights.

The bigger size issue was weight. 150 was what Mayweather weighed on the scales. He says he was 148 on fight night... I don't know about that (I don't know how someone loses weight unintentionally, or in that case, why he would intentionally put on extra weight that he was planning to lose), but he was a very small fighter for a 154 pound championship fight. They never released De La Hoya's weight for fight night, but I'm sure it was well over 160, maybe 165 or so.

Either way...

De La Hoya clearly had more body mass behind his punches.

[kadyo's]

DLH was 135 or less for his first 20 fights.


Tale of the tape:


Mayweather De La Hoya
Height 5' 8 3/4" 5' 10 1/2"
Reach 72" 72"
Neck 16 1/2" 15 1/2"
Chest 38 1/2" 39"
Bicep 12 1/2" 13 3/4"
Forearm 11" 12"
Wrist 7" 7"
Fist 8" 9"
Waist 31" 31 3/4"
Thigh 22" 21"
Calf 15" 13 1/2"
Ankle 9 1/2" 7 1/2"

Not really a huge size advantage for a 34 year old with one fight in over 2 1/2 years and who had arguably lost 3 of his last 4 fights.

Off topic, what's with your avy?

[ferocity]

I've said at numerous points in this thread that I thought Margarito is a good fighter. I just think that a lot of his fans, and I know you know which ones I'm referring to, do Margarito a great disservice by how highly you speak of this guy without any immediately recognizable wins on his ledger.

I bet if Margarito was confronted by some of the things that are said about him by some of his fans on this board, he'd be like "WTF, I'm really not that good."

Most all fighters may think that but there boxing ego wouldn't allow them to think negative its what give them the edge. Unless hearing you're a lose motivates a certain fighter.

I personally have studdied Margarito and from the post i read about how people are dissing Margarito and it becomes clear they dont' know what they are talking about.

When fighters don't want to fight you, you make up a gimmick, "nobody is accepting a fight with Margarito what do we do bob, how do we get his name out to the boxing public if nobody wants to fight him, no even the top contenders" ........."i got it he most be the "most feared welterweight" ........see where im getting at.

And it was true at one time that nobody was willing to fight Margarito.

You even hate on the guy, yet you give Williams props for beating Margarito but you don't say it as clearly as this.

I became a Margarito fan really off all the hate for the guy, then i seen that he was really a good fighter.

But you and some of the other Margarito non supporters get out of line too much when talking about margarito.