Floyd Mayweather Mulling Move To MMA?

[Run]

Well the lighter divisions are loaded with guys who fight standing up before they shoot for take downs, and it's not rocket science in that Floyd could whip their asses standing up.......with those small gloves on.

But who will he fight........really? Like would it become a circus attraction where he would beat some nobody who just so happened to work at the casino.......and signed a waiver for the fight that night?

Because he'd get ****ing murdered by Georges St. Pierre. Or someone who would be considered world class at that level.



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[mrpain81]

Relax Fellas.........

Its not going to happen in a Million years....

[KESSLER]

Mayorga has grit??? and Mayweather does not??? have you seen their training programs...Mayorga puts in maybe 2-3 hours a day compared to Mayweather's long gym hours...

dont confuse Mayorga's raw fight style and attitude as grit...Mayweather is a polished samurai sword whereas Mayorga is a rusty switchblade...stfu!!!

When we're sleeping, Mayweather is working.
When we're working, Mayweather is working.

When we're sleeping, Mayorga is sleeping.
When we're working, Mayorga is smoking.

[pugilistfanatic]

Thats not the case.

The only disgraceful fighters are the ones from the newer seasons of TUF. Don't look at them like they are good, because outside of 2 of them they are really not. That show is just to get publicity.

More then half of the best fighters don't even fight in the UFC. The UFC is a small tiny fraction of Mixed Martial Arts. It's like looking at Showtime boxing ans saying, well, thats all their is to boxing.

This is definitely true. HAHA Blake Bowman. HAHA. Im not kidding I can get a guy off the street and he would absolutely manhandle Bowman in less than 5 seconds.

This is the reason why im less into that show. The fighters just arent very good and it markets itself as thuggish and primitive. I dont think it represents the sport as well as it should.

And for the most part the UFC has the best fighters. And in the grand scheme of things its a small fraction of MMA but to your casual viewer the UFC is a HUGE fraction of MMA.

[βetamax]

I am pretty sure MMA fighters stand at least some chance in boxing. Just like boxers stand a small chance in MMA.

The difference is, Floyd is not going to 1 punch Ko anyone. MMA fighters train their entire lives to avoid this. Also, all you have to do is put one knee down while doing your takedown and the boxer can't touch the MMA fighter.

Sure, if an MMA fighter trains long enough he could probably become a descent boxer and vise versa. A boxer could also probably being a master swordsman if you gave them enough time but I'm talking NOW. I don't see any chance in hell of a top MMA fighter taking on a top boxer in boxing.

Maybe Floyd couldn't 1 punch KO an MMA fighter but I'd bet that one punch would have someone hurt bad, enough that they would be on shaky feet and ready to be taken out with a combination of punches.

I would put my money on the MMA fighter but I would say there is at least a chance the boxer could win.

[renren40]

If thats how you really think your completely ignorant.

i responded to some of your **** in another thread...o yea u said Mayorga is better than Mayweather or something...

[Trax416]

You're crazy if you dont think Davis, Lytle and Sakara arent top 20. You could almost make a case for Davis being in the top 10. Lytle certainly was looking great against big-time prospect Thiago Alves in UFC 78. But he lost due to a cut. In fact, if you watch that fight you can really see the difference in hand speed and lytle was a mediocre pro boxer in Indiana. And both those fighters strengths are striking. Alves is Muay Thai so its not like he was doing that against a wrestler.

Bernard Hopkins trained in boxing before prison. He just didnt pick up a pair of gloves and hit the heavybag. And like Penn, Hopkins is a rare exception. hopkins has put his whole life into this sport. He eats incredibly clean foods, trains like an animal.

Im not denying that MMA doesnt take skill. It does. But there is just less emphasis on skill in MMA than there is in boxing. For example, Koscheck, Hughes, Trigg got outwrestled by GSP who has no amatuer wrestling background. Randleman knocked out Crocop whos an elite kickboxer. Roger Huerta overwhelmed Alberto Crane on the ground despite Crane being absolute world class in BJJ.

On the other hand, in boxing the best fighter almost ALWAYS wins.

Also, others have received black belts fairly quickly as well. Jeff Joslin recieved a black belt in BJJ in a little more than 3 years, GSP has a brown belt in BJJ after only 3 years. He doesnt even devote his time to BJJ either. He balances boxing and wrestling with it as well.

Davis, Lytll and Sakara are not top 20. Their are dozens of fighters just like them. They ARE top 20 in the UFC obviously, but UFC has a small portion of the fighters in the world.

Hopkins started training before prison, much like BJ was learning from his father since he was born. He just never went to an actual class until he was older.

As far as GSP, Joslin and others go it depends on the person they are learning from. GSP was learning JJ long before he went to Renzo. So was Joslin. You can also be a brown belt for years. Anderson Silva was a brown belt for 5 years. Wanderlei for 7. GSP has wrestled with the Canadian Olympic wrestling team since he was a teenager. He never had a wrestling background in school, but thats not how things work in Canada. IN fact, I live in Toronto and don't know a single HS with a wrestling program. You wrestler outside of school mainly.

The reason the "best" fighters don't always win is because their is that elemental of anything can happen. IN boxing, you can make mistakes. You can **** up 10 times. In MMA if you **** up ONCE it's over. It takes huge skill to be undefeated. Thats why MMA takes so much skill. If you make one mistake, it's all over. It really separates the best from the average. If you can sit their and tell me Floyd has never made a mistake you would be wrong.

Could Floyd be good at MMA? Of course. He would need to train for years and work his way up from the bottom. He has the skill obviously. Just like MMA fighters could be good at boxing if they worked hard enough.

However Floyd doesn't have the time to do this. He is to old. He would have to change every single thing he learned in boxing, from his footwork to his defense to adapt. It's to late.

[renren40]

This is definitely true. HAHA Blake Bowman. HAHA. Im not kidding I can get a guy off the street and he would absolutely manhandle Bowman in less than 5 seconds.

This is the reason why im less into that show. The fighters just arent very good and it markets itself as thuggish and primitive. I dont think it represents the sport as well as it should.

And for the most part the UFC has the best fighters. And in the grand scheme of things its a small fraction of MMA but to your casual viewer the UFC is a HUGE fraction of MMA.

agree to disagree....UFC may or may not have the best fighters...But they do have the most hyped up fighters and some of their fight records in the UFC are protected and even sugar coated...the problem with UFC is Dana White seems to have a dictatorship over the fighters....even worse for fighters than Don King some may say...at least Don King knows how to get a million at least for a top 20 boxer....whereas a UFC fighter gets 3,000 on average

[Darkstar]

Mayorga has grit??? and Mayweather does not??? have you seen their training programs...Mayorga puts in maybe 2-3 hours a day compared to Mayweather's long gym hours...

dont confuse Mayorga's raw fight style and attitude as grit...Mayweather is a polished samurai sword whereas Mayorga is a rusty switchblade...stfu!!!

The style of fighting. We will never know but I think Mayorgas style translates well into MMA. Mayweathers is the complete opposite, which wouldnt be very usefull in MMA. Mayweather isnt man enough to fight top p4p fighter like Mayorga did.

[Benny Leonard]

It must just be a coincidence that the best MMA fighters have been championship wrestlers since they were like 10 or BJ Penn was the youngest BJJ champ ever. Or Karo was in Judo when he was 4.

There are kids that play football from the age of 5, yet it was Curtis Martin who picked it up in his senior year of highschool that made it to the pros, go figure.

Many kids learn boxing from 5 years old, but it was a 17 year old kid that went on to learn boxing and win a Gold Medal at 19 against an experience Russian...not to long after, HW Champion.
There was a 13 year old boy who would learn boxing and become Champion at 20. Cannot remember how old Robinson was, but I think he was in his teens as well.





Anyway, the one fighter I cannot remember his name. I first learned of him from the History Channel or Discovery, one of those channels. It was a documentary on fighting a while back. He is a well known Martial Artists who works in the deadly art. He knows many forms of fighting which includes everything from grappling/wrestling to strikes, etc. He started learning in the Military and from there on, went to Japan and toured the world learning. He went on to prove himself by fighting the best in “real fights” and never lost from what I remember. This is a "white" man that runs things in Japan among the most respected of the Japanese schools. Of course a lot of his fighting is basically about knowing how to quickly kill, he wins by demonstrating not to kill and simply disarming his opponents. He isn’t some fat guy either, fit as a Greek statue. But maybe this is some b.s. Hollywood put together doc. to juice things up.


The only other person that name comes to mind at the moment and isn't the same story as above but has somewhat the same story is Joe Lewis.
He started late and quickly learned.


There are some key factors in this all: One, natural talent, which includes certain "gifts" of mental and physical ability. Two, great teaching and being at the right place at the right time.

Listen, you can train someone from 5 years old, it doesn't mean he will have what Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Robinson, etc. had.

There are many stories that have people picking things up late and becoming better than those that started much earlier simply because they had attributes the others didn't.

Is it better to start young, absolutely, and I would suggest it. The body, while growing, adapts and shapes as you grow to the life you will lead.