Floyd Mayweather vs Julio Cesar Chavez

[ferocity]

You forgot the part where Floyd dominates him in the rematch and where he wasn't hurt from an injury. So if Chavez is like Castillo, then Floyd wins.

Seriously, I think Mayweather would win. I don't think so at 135, but at 147. Maybe 140 too.

Rewatch there second fight cause it was just as close borring, more boring then the first but none the less close -the first fight wasn't borring.

[ferocity]

Floyd is too slick, he INVITES punchers to fight on the inside because his primary instinct is to protect THEN strike, take as little damage as possible then find his spots and use them, Floyd is a genious, Chavez wouldn't be able to narrow him down, he caught Taylor but EVEN Taylor wasn't as skilled as Mayweather, his defense wasn't up to par and for those who hold names up high, NO, you don't fly here, you don't pertain because simply at a menchine of a *****z name you already saying Floyd will lose without even considering, I'm CONSIDERING what BOTH brought to the table and Floyd brings more, Floyd is more skilled than a lot of guys, try to find someone in some particular fight that can match Floyd's ability compared to the Hatton fight? you can't right? it doesn't even have to be Hatton it can be anyone, try to name someone who played with THAT kind of opposition the way Floyd has, I'll sit here and wait ALL DAY for you.. Floyd would have beaten Chavez, at 135 he had a lot of trouble with his hands so MAYBE not there but in terms of skills he would have beaten him there too, Chavez was probably the BEST Lightweight BESIDES Roberto Duran but the guys Chavez fought at Lightweight don't match HALF of Money Mayweather's skills, read'em and weep.. 100

all i got from your post is "floyd is god"

If Meldrick Taylor doesn't match Mayweather in skill, then Mayweather doesn't match Taylor in offense, which is what you need to win.

[Tyson2k7]

And do you honestly think that was a prime Mayweather that fought Castillo?

Absolutely he was in his prime.

Mayweather was at his best at lower weight class and any knowledgeable boxing fan could tell you that.

You're kidding yourself.

hahaha

[ferocity]

I am opened minded. But if you want to bring into the could have would have ****, don't bring up JCC.
Your not schooling me on anything.
Mayweather isn't a natural welterweight either. Thats what the Hatton fans like to throw out as a excuse.
He started out as a 130.
I do think Mayweather can be beat. But Cotto isn't the one. And it will get proven.
PWill is the only man at this time that I think could beat Mayweather.

Margarito started at 135, he's not a real welterweight either right?

Have you ever heard of, "styles make fights."

[Sweet Pea 50]

Margarito started at 135, he's not a real welterweight either right?

Have you ever heard of, "styles make fights."

Every time Teddy Atlas opens his yap I hear that "STYLES MAKE FIGHTS".
Thats not what I'm getting at.
Frankie Randall. Thats all I got to say about JCC. Once again, JCC is put on a pedestal in which he does not belong.
You can go with the styles make fights **** all day long, and look like you know what your talking about.
But your not fooling me.
And what the **** does Marge have to do with the price of beans in China any how? Are Marge fans STILL mad that their hopes and dreams got squashed by a little known at the time PWill?

[ferocity]

Every time Teddy Atlas opens his yap I hear that "STYLES MAKE FIGHTS".
Thats not what I'm getting at.
Frankie Randall. Thats all I got to say about JCC. Once again, JCC is put on a pedestal in which he does not belong.
You can go with the styles make fights **** all day long, and look like you know what your talking about.
But your not fooling me.
And what the **** does Marge have to do with the price of beans in China any how? Are Marge fans STILL mad that their hopes and dreams got squashed by a little known at the time PWill?

You act as if the Randell fight was a blow out sorry it wasn't. Randell threw more punchs in that fight then Mayweather did in all of his career -damn i sound like Hatton.

Randell gave his best performance on that night, and floyd don't fight like Randell, Randell was very offensive in that fight whens the last time we seen Mayweather really offensive against a fighter?

You mention Randell, I mention Castillo, **** can go round and round.

[Sweet Pea 50]

You act as if the Randell fight was a blow out sorry it wasn't. Randell threw more punchs in that fight then Mayweather did in all of his career -damn i sound like Hatton.

Randell gave his best performance on that night, and floyd don't fight like Randell, Randell was very offensive in that fight whens the last time we seen Mayweather really offensive against a fighter?

You mention Randell, I mention Castillo, **** can go round and round.

Uhh NO. You can put punch output stats all you want. Mayweather is basically a distance, potshot, COUNTERPUNCHER. He LIKES to be in the corner.
You mention Castillo, I bring up DLH. TWICE. The **** does not go round and round. The **** stops when Chavez whines about RICARD STEELE for christ sakes in the Randell fight. He should have bought that mutherphucka Steele a house for that stoppage of the Taylor fight.
Ask Gatti what happens at 140 when Mayweather decides to get "offensive".
Mayweather spanks JCC at 140. 117-111 Mayweather on all score cards. And thats if Chavez didn't get busted with a lead right and get turned into a bleeding mess and get stopped before hand.

[Burning Desire]

Mayweather would out box Chavez similar to how Whitaker did, but he would get robbed and Chavez would win SD in disbelief to the crowd and the viewers at home.

[crillz]

all i got from your post is "floyd is god"

If Meldrick Taylor doesn't match Mayweather in skill, then Mayweather doesn't match Taylor in offense, which is what you need to win.

and all I got from yours is ******ity..

you act as if a good defense can't bring you a good win, ask Winky Wright and he will tell you otherwise, you really need to stop applying me to these little ****ing fans who be on here praising fighters, I ain't no fan of Floyd, I respect him and give him proper due that he deserves THATS IT, stop trying to categorize me like I'm riding his jock strap when I'm only saying the truth.. Mayweather doesn't get hit as much as Taylor but his offense is STILL very good, his defense and offense is better because he is more polished in BOTH, just because you throw a million punches don't mean you a better offensive fighter than someone who throws thousand if the guy throwing 1,000 is landing more and getting hit less, don't sit there and tell me that **** because then you don't know the sweet science.

[deliveryman]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

You're views are amazingly distorted from the truth. I believe you're the only one who thinks that. Mayweather at 130 was BY FAR the best Floyd, arguably the best to ever fight in that division. Watch him fight, it's clear as day, he was better in every area than he is now, other than being conservative. I thought it was common knowledge that Mayweather was known to be at his best 140 and below. Super green? LMAO, he was one of the top P4P fighters in the world, and anyone that watches him at 130 and says he is better now needs to have eye surgery.

130 was his best weight, there's no arguement from me regarding that, but that doesn't mean he was in his "prime". I am talking about physical and mental prime. If you think that a 24 yearold Mayweather, in his 23rd professional fight, was at the peak of his physical capabilities and had enough experience to be considered "prime", then you're not as smart as I initially thought you were.

Hopefully this is a misunderstanding.

Hypothetically speaking, if Floyd were to stay at 135 throughout most of his career, would you not agree that a 2006 lightweight version of Floyd would be a more polished fighter with more experience than the 2002 lightweight version of Floyd? Not to mention it would probably be a lot thicker and stronger than he was.