How could Roy Jones Junior be the best of this era?

[Sweet Pete]

He bulldozed a guy who was being ducked by the like of Eubank and such. I know he was supposed to beat him, but it was such a good performance. That and the Nunn wins showed how Toney could pull it out when he really had to.

It was a good performance similar to the way Nunn was a good win, being as Toney was in trouble in both fights, and pretty much needed the KO to win(Nuun because he was down on the cards, and Littles because he was cut).

[shawn_]

I watched it. Nunn was pitching a near shutout and the scorecards proved it....

Obviously, Nunn was winning, that doesn't meant James Toney wasn't putting on a masterful defensive performance.

[Sweet Pete]

I judge fighters based on their best performances because that is all that matters, how good they could be.

That is completely backwards the way I see it. You base some guys on their unfulfilled potential in other words, higher than someone who accomplished more. I don't get it.

[shawn_]

It was a good performance similar to the way Nunn was a good win, being as Toney was in trouble in both fights, and pretty much needed the KO to win(Nuun because he was down on the cards, and Littles because he was cut).

Doesn't that say something about the fighter?

[Sweet Pete]

Montell slapped him around pretty good. Not what I call a dominating performance, but he WAS winning. He had Roy Jones flinching off of feints.

According to the cards, Jones was up. Based on what I saw, Griffin had everyone going because he did a lot better than anyone would've thought, but he wasn't really winning I didn't think. I believe I had Jones up by a point or two.

[-Hyperion-]

Griffin is strangely forgotten. I blame the Roy rematch.

yep....montell had great potential...i remember watching his schooling of amateur star jeremy williams for the olyimpic spot in the light heavy divison back in 96....and griffin was inexperienced as ****...in the first fight i had him beating roy by a point going to the 9th....then roy got himslef DQ'ed even though he had figured out griffin....but yeah the rematch and egtting rid of futch ruined montell...

[shawn_]

That is completely backwards the way I see it. You base some guys on their unfulfilled potential in other words, higher than someone who accomplished more. I don't get it.

That is why I have said James Toney COULD HAVE BEEN. You really need to read what I say before putting words in my mouth.

If you do not Judge a fighter on how good he is, then what do you judge him on?

[Azteca]

According to the cards, Jones was up. Based on what I saw, Griffin had everyone going because he did a lot better than anyone would've thought, but he wasn't really winning I didn't think. I believe I had Jones up by a point or two.

I had Montell comfortably ahead.

[Sweet Pete]

Doesn't that say something about the fighter?

Sure it does, but it's not like he's the only one to do something like that. Good stuff, but doesn't change the fact that he simply doesn't rate as highly for me because of the fact that he wa sgetting thoroughly outboxed by Nunn, and even having trouble with Littles.

[K-Nan]

It was a good performance similar to the way Nunn was a good win, being as Toney was in trouble in both fights, and pretty much needed the KO to win(Nuun because he was down on the cards, and Littles because he was cut).

Yup. he pulled it out when he needed to. The 12th round of the Jirov fight was proof of this too. He stood up to Jirov's final rush.

I'll go on the record as saying that he's one of the best of our era, but not in the top 3. Top 10, maybe.