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  • Kball15
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    #71
    Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
    I love Oscar, but he needs to take a step back and let Cotto/Mayweather transpire.

    Oscar should seriously think about Paul Williams, I mean at this point in Oscar's career, it's known he'll give you a fight even if he loses a decision. And ontop of that, those lanky arms will grant Oscar more oppertunities then Cotto's short quick power shots.
    no Oscar NEEDS to fight Cotto cause the ONLY way COTTO-MAYWEATHER is gonna happen is if Cotto makes a name for himself and beats DE LA HOYA.

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    • ferocity
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      #72
      Originally posted by crillz
      Oscar De La Hoya does not deserve a big fight, when will his ****ing name stop qualifying him? he is not in line to face someone who beat a guy who beat someone who whipped HIS ass twice and on top of that Oscar losing his last fight at a higher weight level against a smaller, BETTER guy and losing 3 of his last 5 fights, how does this ****ing primadonna get the honor bestowed upon him to face Miguel Cotto? a direct chance at a MAJOR title? I would rather see a Judah rematch because at least he deserves it, he been screaming rematch since the post fight interview and has been winning all of his last few fights but Oscar? get the **** out of here..
      I sence jealousy. He made Mayweather into a ppv mega attraction and his fight with Mayweather could have gone either way. I know a lot of people that saw Mayweather run all night and asked, "how did he win?"

      Great fighters always get these oppertunites, he ain't the only fighter in history to do what ever he wants in boxing.

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      • MaYaN_SuN
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        #73
        Originally posted by Kball15
        no Oscar NEEDS to fight Cotto cause the ONLY way COTTO-MAYWEATHER is gonna happen is if Cotto makes a name for himself and beats DE LA HOYA.
        lol Cause being number 2 isnt enough? Cotto doesn't "have" to do **** but sign the papers. A fight with Oscar when the public is already demanding a bout with Mayweather, thats borderline ******ed. It's like Margarito facin Williams when he already had Cotto lined up. It's not as risky as that fight, but a risk nonetheless.

        If Cotto loses, thats just 'If'...Mayweather would never fight Cotto and be like "told you he was green" or some ****, and get away scott-free with fightin over hyped fighters, lol **** that. Cotto should get in Mayweathers chest and be persistant in doing so. Same way Tarver got Jones, cause getting Mayweather to fight a real is like pulling teeth.

        Cotto should take Mayorga, then in the later half of 08...Mayweather.

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        • crillz
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          #74
          Originally posted by ferocity
          I sence jealousy. He made Mayweather into a ppv mega attraction and his fight with Mayweather could have gone either way. I know a lot of people that saw Mayweather run all night and asked, "how did he win?"

          Great fighters always get these oppertunites, he ain't the only fighter in history to do what ever he wants in boxing.
          oh boy here we go with the jealousy ****.. I'm not a ranked Welterweight who got pushed aside homie I have NO reason to be 'jealous", I ain't even mad yo I just don't like when someone bypasses the ranks due to a strong rep, if he had emeritus status then aight but c'mon man lets be real here that **** ain't right.. MAYWEATHER turned Mayweather into a PPV attraction, the world awaits wouldn't have been so BIG had Oscar's opponent hadn't been Floyd, I'm sick and tired of people making Floyd out to seem like a product of Oscar when Oscar was just another opponent on his win column, it made for good promotion because they BOTH held weight.. why wasn't Felix Sturm made into a mega star when he chopped up Oscar? because he didn't have the star quality to match Oscar, 2 big mega stars coming together is going to make for a bigger event than just 1 against a no name dude, Floyd played JUST AS MUCH of a part as Oscar did in the world awaits so YOU and everybody else who feels Oscar made Floyd an attraction need to be easy..

          I never once denied that **** like that goes on in Boxing and has been going on that way since way back the only thing I'm saying and the undeniable fact here is that IT AIN'T RIGHT, the **** ain't fair to other fighters like Judah and others who are coming off wins to have to step aside for this Ken doll look alike to just bust in after losing yet again in a world class fight, he gets so much leeway for reasons other than the actual sport whether it's his name or his opposition but that **** is WRONG, it's STILL going to happen but it's WRONG..

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          • frankpaganini
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            #75
            Originally posted by Puas
            This article states there there are negotiations in place to have Miguel Cotto fight Oscar De La Hoya on the 3rd of May in Los Angeles. I think it's going to happen, it does not speak of what venue or weight class though. They must be in the very early stages of negotiations, none the less some coordination is being done.

            http://www.elnuevodia.com/diario/not...a_cotto/330325
            i like Oscar De La Hoya and Miguel Cotto and think it would be a very exciting bout BUT i really dont think at this point oscar is in the position to fight the number one contender of the welterweight division.

            he's lost several of his last 5 or 7 bouts.

            I dont think (beyond his name) he has earned this fight.

            Granted a loss to mayweather (That many including myself think he won) doesnt really hurt your record but none the less i dont think he's in the position to have this fight.

            The person who has the most to gain in this bout is Miguel Cotto if he wins. It would mean his last 2 of 3 opponents would have been world champions who at one point held a high ranking on the p4p list and would without a doubt sell MANY ppv's with a fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. It would almost guarantee him a reputation of a force to be reckoned with currently in boxing and may even earn him a top 7 spot on the p4p list.

            If he wins...

            If he loses (unfortunately) since oscar is past his prime it would drop his stock greatly and he would NOT be the number 1 contender in the welterweight divison (in my opinion) and it would set things back how they were at the start of 2007; filled with very good competition but WIDE open.

            Then floyd's next fight will either:
            A) be 8 months to a year from now (to let the division define itself again)

            or

            B) a fight with a boxer who has an established repuation but past his prime (maybe against a mayorga, or a shane mosley, or even de la hoya again...who knows)

            if oscar DOES beat cotto i think mayweather should meet up with pacquiao at a catch weight (its probably the best option if that were to occur) rather than a pacquiao/hatton bout. unless pacquiao uses hatton as a measuring stick to get to floyd.

            for the sake of boxing today it would be best if cotto won.

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              #76
              cotto is going to beat that ass bad

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                #77
                Originally posted by frankpaganini
                i like Oscar De La Hoya and Miguel Cotto and think it would be a very exciting bout BUT i really dont think at this point oscar is in the position to fight the number one contender of the welterweight division.

                he's lost several of his last 5 or 7 bouts.

                I dont think (beyond his name) he has earned this fight.

                Granted a loss to mayweather (That many including myself think he won) doesnt really hurt your record but none the less i dont think he's in the position to have this fight.

                The person who has the most to gain in this bout is Miguel Cotto if he wins. It would mean his last 2 of 3 opponents would have been world champions who at one point held a high ranking on the p4p list and would without a doubt sell MANY ppv's with a fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. It would almost guarantee him a reputation of a force to be reckoned with currently in boxing and may even earn him a top 7 spot on the p4p list.

                If he wins...

                If he loses (unfortunately) since oscar is past his prime it would drop his stock greatly and he would NOT be the number 1 contender in the welterweight divison (in my opinion) and it would set things back how they were at the start of 2007; filled with very good competition but WIDE open.

                Then floyd's next fight will either:
                A) be 8 months to a year from now (to let the division define itself again)

                or

                B) a fight with a boxer who has an established repuation but past his prime (maybe against a mayorga, or a shane mosley, or even de la hoya again...who knows)

                if oscar DOES beat cotto i think mayweather should meet up with pacquiao at a catch weight (its probably the best option if that were to occur) rather than a pacquiao/hatton bout. unless pacquiao uses hatton as a measuring stick to get to floyd.

                for the sake of boxing today it would be best if cotto won.


                How does a fight with a lightmiddleweight affect his welterweight standings?

                I think Oscar has a good chance to KO Cotto which is why I dont want this fight to happen. People will dismiss Cotto if he loses to Oscar which has nothing to do with his ability to put on a great show against Mayweather...

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                • pugilistfanatic
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by crillz
                  Oscar De La Hoya does not deserve a big fight, when will his ****ing name stop qualifying him? he is not in line to face someone who beat a guy who beat someone who whipped HIS ass twice and on top of that Oscar losing his last fight at a higher weight level against a smaller, BETTER guy and losing 3 of his last 5 fights, how does this ****ing primadonna get the honor bestowed upon him to face Miguel Cotto? a direct chance at a MAJOR title? I would rather see a Judah rematch because at least he deserves it, he been screaming rematch since the post fight interview and has been winning all of his last few fights but Oscar? get the **** out of here..
                  I totally agree. I'm sick and tired of Oscar swooping in and trying to get the big fights. He doesnt deserve to fight Cotto. Paul Williams does. You know why? Because hes actually won his last few fights. DLH has lost 3 of his last 5fights and his last win is against Ricardo "the human punching bag" Mayorga.

                  He needs to take a step back and let the best fight the best.

                  With that said, DLH fighting Cotto is great for the sport because DLH has a huge following and would help build Cottos fanbase when Cotto knocks DLH's head into the 10th row.

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                  • NYCHeavyHitz
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                    #79
                    It sucks that money is keeping these fights from happening. I mean money is good, but, eh.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
                      I love Oscar, but he needs to take a step back and let Cotto/Mayweather transpire.

                      Oscar should seriously think about Paul Williams, I mean at this point in Oscar's career, it's known he'll give you a fight even if he loses a decision. And ontop of that, those lanky arms will grant Oscar more oppertunities then Cotto's short quick power shots.
                      Floyd is taking at least a year off, so this is the perfect setup to FLoyd v Cotto.

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