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  • nmuburner22
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    #61
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    as much as i disagree that come fight night hatton is bigger than floyd

    LOL

    i COMPLETELY agree with you... cotto really is nothing special... hes a really good fighter.... but stepping up to the next level... is an entire different thing... ricky hatton is a beast, until he fought floyd... cotto isnt fast enough to get to floyd.. i dont care if the guy can hit like a truck.. whats it matter if you cant lland the punch...

    we just watched the best pressure fighter in the sport get picked apart on the INSIDE by floyd.... cotto wouldnt have a chance... he really wouldnt

    and anyone who denies he got picked apart... go watch the fight again... and dont take your eyes off what is ACTUALLY hitting floyd.... barely ANYTHING.. lots of activity... little to NO effectiveness


    Bottom Effing Line.

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    • C'MONMANG'
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      #62
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      as much as i disagree that come fight night hatton is bigger than floyd

      LOL

      i COMPLETELY agree with you... cotto really is nothing special... hes a really good fighter.... but stepping up to the next level... is an entire different thing... ricky hatton is a beast, until he fought floyd... cotto isnt fast enough to get to floyd.. i dont care if the guy can hit like a truck.. whats it matter if you cant lland the punch...

      we just watched the best pressure fighter in the sport get picked apart on the INSIDE by floyd.... cotto wouldnt have a chance... he really wouldnt

      and anyone who denies he got picked apart... go watch the fight again... and dont take your eyes off what is ACTUALLY hitting floyd.... barely ANYTHING.. lots of activity... little to NO effectiveness

      so you didnt see the Uraungo fight? or the Collazo fight huh?

      figures as much

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      • AntonTheMeh
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        #63
        Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
        Yo being flat footed when punching is only a negative when you cant throw being flat footed lol. Cotto can bomb being flat footed. Floyd cant even land his best without having his feet set, Floyds hardest shots come when his feet are slammed in the ground and he leans into his pot shots. And lets be honest, those exact shots we saw last saturday didn't look that impressive against Oscar or Baldomir. Oscar picked em off for the majority of the fight and Baldomir walked through em the whole fight, thats even more of an example of how over hyped Hatton was as an opponent. Those same punches practically decapitated Hatton, Mayweather hasn't looked that strong since Diego Corrales I think. And you'd be a fool if you think that **** would happen to Cotto lol. Mosley and Judah both stronger then Floyd, both unable get to the job done because of what Cotto was firing back.

        Are you insane? Hatton and Cotto fight the exact same in the sense they're they're at their best when they successfully pressure fighters. It's just Cotto is an Elite at it, Hatton is like an amateur...

        Cotto closes distance with accurate punches that are fast and feel like cinderblocks, and with perfect foot work. Hatton just dives in with weak shots hoping his momentum will grant him a slight edge in power and effort, some real amateur tactics. Thats probably why he gets tired so fast, he has to use his whole body non stop.

        But with Cotto able to stay ontop of a guy and beat your internal organs, there's no way Floyd would be able to stand still, especially if he lets that shoulder D absorb shots, not now in Cotto's career. No one can afford to sit still infront of Cotto too long, unless youre a natural Middleweight or some **** lol. Floyd would have to move, but that would hardly matter cause Cotto can cut the ring off with quick shots all night long. Zab tried to move but got crushed. Mayweather would try to move, get hit, then try to move even more drastically, wich would probably end up in him losing a decision.

        Cotto's tailer made to crush Floyd, lol and it has to be done. No way Floyd can get away with this phoney epic career defining victory over "Ricky Hatton."
        they think of him as slow but that's when he's battered his opponents until they're damn near unrecognizable

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        • THE REED
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          #64
          Originally posted by boxing_pundit85
          i hope you arent serious? floyd could easily win by dancing around and throwing a punch at a time. the only question is can floyd ko him, because that would be ****ing impresive. cotto is insanely overated, but cotto lovers are really just floyd haters that build him up so that they believe he can beat floyd and make their dreams come true.
          i totally agree

          theres no flat footed fighter thats gonna keep up with floyd... hatton couldnt keep up with floyd and hes like the energizer bunny... and cotto doesnt have this rock solid chin you guys think he does? hes been down... and a defeat over "no focus" zab judah means nothing... and by the way does no one seem to remember zab ROCKING cotto 4 - 5 times in that fight... everyone knows zab deteriorates after 7 rounds, no matter who he fights... and cotto barely outpointed a 36 yr old mosley... cottos a really good fighter... but if mosley confused him with boxing....

          then floyd would............... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          the only person that can literally beat floyd is paul williams, and not based on skill... just based on 135 punches a round.........

          floyd will hit you, and you wont hit him... pressure, no pressure, boxing, no boxing... it doesnt matter... he ll hit you, and you wont hit him
          Last edited by THE REED; 12-12-2007, 01:20 PM.

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          • nmuburner22
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            #65
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss
            i totally agree

            theres no flat footed fighter thats gonna keep up with floyd... hatton couldnt keep up with floyd and hes like the energizer bunny... and cotto doesnt have this rock solid chin you guys think he does? hes been down... and a defeat over "no focus" zab judah means nothing... and by the way does no one seem to remember zab ROCKING cotto 4 - 5 times in that fight... everyone knows zab deteriorates after 7 rounds, no matter who he fights... and cotto barely outpointed a 36 yr old mosley... cottos a really good fighter... but if mosley confused him with boxing....

            then floyd would............... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
            Yeah Im pretty sure Money wouLD PWN Cotto and might KO him.

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            • The Surgeon
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              #66
              Miguel Cotto is THE Best WW Fighter on the Planet in my eyes!
              I didnt wanna run my mouth off after the Hatton fight and ruin Floyds moment but He has the beating of Floyd for me. Floyd deserves all the credit in the world for the Hatton fight, he was Exceptional and went up in my estimations! But Cotto aint Hatton!
              Floyd dont need Miguel its the other way about but if he intends to Box on and as a WW he NEEDS to fight Cotto! I wouldnt blame em if he retired, he's Philthy Rich, has accomplished much and has aches and pains from years of boxing. Hope 2 **** the Cotto fight happens tho!

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              • Left2body
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                #67
                Guys dont get it twisted Cotto is very fast, faster than Hatton. Cotto has also faced opponents faster than PBF and with more power. It wont be PBF's speed that would make it hard for Cotto it will be PBF's skill.

                Judah is faster than PBF and Mosley is equally fast, maybe a shade slower (not sure they haven't fought each other or a mutual opponent). Cotto has speed, he is deceptively fast as commented by Quintana in his post fight interview. I'm also sure Mosley was surprised by Cotto's hand speed and ability to box. In the Judah fight no one even saw the uppercut that KD Judah until the replay.

                Is PBF faster than Cotto, yeah but I dont think its as big a gap as many people feel it to be.

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                • mboricua707
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                  #68
                  Hitting cotto is eisier than hitting a billboard with a snowball, but he's relentless!!! Hit him once, and he'll nail you twice (Just ask Zab). Zab is a good puncher and twice as fast as Cotto, but Zab couldn't handle the accumulation of punches coming back at him. IF COTTO WERE A BULL IN A BULLRING, HE'D BE THE ONE WITH A DOZEN BANDEIRILHAS IN HIS BACK, STILL TRYING TO KILL THE MATADOR.He is one of those fighters who really bring out the old saw about styles making fights.

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                  • nmuburner22
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by mboricua707
                    Hitting cotto is eisier than hitting a billboard with a snowball, but he's relentless!!! Hit him once, and he'll nail you twice (Just ask Zab). Zab is a good puncher and twice as fast as Cotto, but Zab couldn't handle the accumulation of punches coming back at him. IF COTTO WERE A BULL IN A BULLRING, HE'D BE THE ONE WITH A DOZEN BANDEIRILHAS IN HIS BACK, STILL TRYING TO KILL THE MATADOR.He is one of those fighters who really bring out the old saw about styles making fights.
                    I think its Floyd defense that would ultimately make this fight not close at all.

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                    • THE REED
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                      #70
                      cotto has decently good hand speed.. and when zab and mosley throw... they throw and then dont get out of the way after... when floyd throws, he goes into immediate defense... pbf is faster than both zab mosley... his foot speed is equal to his hand speed and his upper body movement is like no one in the sport...

                      its really all about the upper body movement... by the time you telegraph your punch pbf is already ducking and backing out the way and looking to counter... pbfs eyes are faster than anyones hands... he really is the truth... and hes proved it over and over... from undefeated fighters, proven fighters, bigger fighters, stronger fighters, brawlers, boxers, stalkers, pressure fighters, smaller quick fighters, legends, and hall of fame fighters... hes beaten every style... cotto is a great fighter... but hes not gonna bring anything to the table that floyd hasnt seen, figured out, adapted, and beaten...

                      and that really is.... the way it is

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