Miguel Cotto = Overrated

[MaFu MoFo]

Geez, I can see why some peple would pick Floyd to beat Cotto, but you my man need to change your av, instead of showing that kid getting breast fed you need to show your picture getting **** fed by Floyd.

LMFAO!!! SO ****ING TRUE...

[machotime]

So PBF has beat a 35 year old fighter with 11 losses in Baldomir, an inflated JWW out of prime mediocre fighter in Shramba and had a close fight with a fighter that Cotto COMPLETELY and thoroughly dominated in Judah....

Furthermore, how can you give credit to PBF for beating DLH yet not give Cotto credit for beating a more active fighter in SSM which beat DLH twice?

Furthermore, the win over Hatton was impressive, I will not discount that, but that fight was an interesting choice of opponent for PBF as Hatton had only had one other fight at 147 and almost lost it to a mediocre welter in Collazo.

So if Cotto is "highly overrated" what is PBF??

Neither of them are overrated... THey are both excellent fighters, one is more talented, the other is more devoted and exciting.

[MaFu MoFo]

So PBF has beat a 35 year old fighter with 11 losses in Baldomir, an inflated JWW out of prime mediocre fighter in Shramba and had a close fight with a fighter that Cotto COMPLETELY and thoroughly dominated in Judah....

Furthermore, how can you give credit to PBF for beating DLH yet not give Cotto credit for beating a more active fighter in SSM which beat DLH twice?

Furthermore, the win over Hatton was impressive, I will not discount that, but that fight was an interesting choice of opponent for PBF as Hatton had only had one other fight at 147 and almost lost it to a mediocre welter in Collazo.

So if Cotto is "highly overrated" what is PBF??

Neither of them are overrated... THey are both excellent fighters, one is more talented, the other is more devoted and exciting.

Good post. I agree.

[nmuburner22]

huh...someone more devoted than Mayweather???....lol...

[MaYaN_SuN]

1. No he is not. Cotto is an up and comer, Hopkins was a gatekeeper in his division, there is a huge difference between the two.

2. The reason I brought up Miguel's weight and length of time at 147 is because of the fact that if Floyd would've taken this fight 6 months ago and won, people who dislike him would be calling Cotto "just another blown up JWW". Those terms are ****** and I wish people would stop using them. If Cottos only place in the record books is as "just another fighter that Floyd ducked", then that kinda proves that he is not that guy. The point is, there is always a Cotto out there. The fact that Paul Williams has JUST stepped onto the scene, and now people are saying Floyd is ducking him is rock solid proof of that. I like Williams and picked him to punish Margo, but the kid was just on Friday Night Fights last year, let's be real.

Floyd beating Miguel Cotto won't prove anything other than that he could beat Cotto.His legacy is intact, whatever he decides to do from here on out.

Cotto's the second best welterweight, he's number 2. lol Floyd just faught in an OVER HYPED bout wich means you could make the arguement that Cotto should be ranked above him.

As strong as Cotto's defense with his gloves has been against the likes of Judah and Mosley, as persistant and powerfull and accurate as his punches have been...You can't keep a straight face and say he wouldn't have a chance against Mayweather.

But I'm not in the game of "if they fought yesterday, they'd be sayin this, or if he wins now, they're gonna say that." I'm not really into that, all I know...just from seein each fighter showcase their talents in the ring, is that Cotto can, and probably will defeat Floyd. I'm not sayin, Cotto's light years ahead of Floyd, but he's definantly capable. Definantly.

I mean Cotto isn't Ricky Hatton lmao, Cotto isn't a HYPE JOB. All thats behind Cotto is a list of names that keep gettin smashed on, and the list is gonna continue to build.

And why would the fight take place 6 months ago? Cotto is a fresh 147, you said it yourself. They're bringing him along nicely, and if that was Cotto pressuring Floyd on december 8th, having Floyd all off balance and weak looking, c'mon...the fight would have been very different. lol I'm talkin about a black and white difference. Cotto's ready and more then capable.

[crillz]

Not because he's beaten nothing but faded champs and inexperienced fringe contenders barely out of the Olympics, and not because most of his wins were at a weight class that he was too big for, but because people consider him to be this much of a threat to Floyd Mayweather even after knowing these facts.

All that we've been getting directly proceeding Mayweather's brutal KO victory, is references to Cotto this and how Floyd is ducking him or avoiding him, etc, etc.. Listen. I am being so honest when I say that Miguel Cotto is absolutely nothing without PBF. You are building him into another Margarito based on Floyd's name; it is an endless cycle. The acclaim basically comes from two wins through out his 31 fight and 7 year (nearly) career.

Mosley and Zab Judah


* It is so undeniably hilarious that Floyd almost gets no credit for beating Zab, but Cotto does, even with the year lay-off and previous 2 losses. It bewilders the mind.

* Mosley is 36 (4 years away from 40) and hasn't had a belt since 2003. That is four years out of your prime. Even Oscar is only 34 and had a belt when Mayweather fought him. Mosley had been reduced to fighting contenders and washed up former champions. He hadn't been a belt holder at Welter Weight since 2001. Cotto was barely starting his career the last time he was Welter weight champ, 6 full calendar years ago.


Therefore, Cotto's status among some of his deranged fans is unjustified. Moving up from 140 before winning a lineal title is already a bad sign and he still hasn't won one, yet Mayweather did in his 18th fight. If Mayweather leaves then it is up to him to fight for lineal supremacy, but depending on a semi-retired Floyd Mayweather for it is just being a crybaby. Work like he did and tell your fans to stop bitching. Maybe someday you'll be as great as Floyd Mayweather jr...

Paul Williams would kill Cotto btw, imho..

oh ****ing boy here we go, before the talks of Cotto-Floyd you never came out to THIS kind of extent to downplay Cotto, you act like floyd fought the VERY ****ing best out there yo get real for a second, Cotto has taken more 0's from people than Floyd has and has beaten some GOOD guys, **** looking at HOW he did it(i.e Shane Mosley and Zab Judah) because you the same guy never letting out a peep on Floyd against Castillo which BTW I re-watched the fight, Floyd lost, I still think he's the greatest our era has produced but he lost that fight I just didn't want to make a whole subject about it again, **** a broken hand dogz don't sit here and try to justify Floyd's performance against Jose and downplay Miguel against Shane I don't care how old Shane was and how good of a fight he gave Cotto.. i know your style and I know what you will say to a reference to the Castillo fight, "his hand was hurt and he still held his own" but leave the alibi's elsewhere..

it seems EVERYTHING you post is in defense of Floyd Mayweather, I ain't no Cotto fan BTW before you accuse of being one I'm a BOXING fan and I respect BOTH fighters but Floyd lost that fight, I have gone on record before as saying differently but over time you see a fight and you cut the volume to X out commentators and you look at each round for the punches and you come to realize whats what, if Miguel got a DRAW against Mosley then Floyd LOST to Castillo.. you make excuses for all of these opponents Floyd has, you name the age and the belts but count the victories, Oscar's only decisive wins before Floyd were Vargas and Mayorga, he lost ALL of the others INCLUDING Floyd he just managed to rob Sturm to preserve a Hopkins fight..

don't sit here and try to justify Floyd's win over Zab and not Cotto's, Cotto STOPPED him, made him take a knee, he obliterated Zab and DIDN'T get knocked down by him(YES it was a KD), Cotto beat Judah in a better fashion thats why he gets more respect, the year lay off must not have had THAT much effect on Zab if he came back fighting the way he fought that night, I haven't seen such a good Judah since the Spinks win and you want to sit there and talk about layoffs? c'mon dogz be for real here.. Cotto doesn't need Floyd nor does Floyd need Cotto, Floyd can walk away right now and Cotto will be just as great as he was meant to be WITHOUT Floyd, Floyd ain't the only threat out there and Cotto knows what he's doing.. Cotto fought MORE SOLID contenders than what Floyd has faced hows about that?

you want to talk about opposition? Cotto beat Sosa, Corley, Jukko and Judah and thats only to name opponents they BOTH faced and Cotto KO'ed them all while Floyd went the distance with them, on top of those guys Cotto beat Abdulaev, Malignaggi, Quintana, Branco, Pinto, N'Dou, Urkal, Torres, Bailey, Maussa, Bazan and Mosley and thats just to name the notable names so don't sit there and try to make Cotto seem overrated because do the math homie Mosley beat Oscar, the BIGGEST name on Mayweather's resume and biggest win yet, 2 times and Mosley has been reputed to be someone Floyd ducked(which I KNOW is BULL****), I'm just saying don't go and wave off Cotto like some false threat, dude is the real deal and if you want to break down opponents we can do that.. BOTH had their off nights and came out on top, GRANTED, but neither of the 2 are flukes and for you to make a thread calling Cotto overrated just makes you look like a biased towards Floyd poster and that **** ain't cool, Williams TOO is a threat no doubt and IMO Cotto will beat BOTH Williams and Floyd but make no mistake I'm no fan of Cotto, I plan on seeing more Cotto's in my lifetime and more Floyd's so I'm no fan, I'm a fan of Boxing I just respect the fighters and this LONG ASS POST is me showing my respect to BOTH unlike you who wants to respect 1 and downplay the other..