Miguel Cotto = Overrated

[sonofisis]

You just said he always fights with the odds in his favor ergo he does not take a challenge.

He's #1 p4p, anybody he fights around his weight class, he will be the betting favorite. He gained that status BY beating betting favorites. You make no sense and are grasping for straws. His challenges were taken and he's passed them all, including the last one, which is why he is STILL p4p#1 and betting favorite no matter who he fights, even Cotto. Which means Cotto isn't a challenge, according to you..

Now go about your pathetic day trying to shine on these boards all day by stroking Mayweathers e-**** and generaly just being a ****.

Wtf is an "e-****"? .. Jeeze, some of you people are real geeks. Just make your point without all of the extra bull**** and internet lingo, it's annoying.

Im thinking the consensus is that Cotto will lose this fight....

It is and all that you have to do is look at the polls AND read what most boxing writers are saying, especially now.

[CottoBreaksMen]

In a recent article, it was noted how manipulative Mayweather was by dropping Mosley's name the instant the reporter asked him about Cotto... The old smokescreen tactic. Floyd the magician Mayweather. You can't make the #1 contender disappear Floyd. Panic when he hears Cotto's name. Hahahaha

"Mosley...Mosley.... Mosley..." Haha

Recall when margarito had Floyd stuuttering when he walked up on him. " Oh we gonna do it down the line when it makes more business sense ok?" Had him kissin his ass.

Kepp tellin yourself the buying public is more interested in a Mayweather/Williams?? fight. Jittery Floyd.

[nmuburner22]

It is and all that you have to do is look at the polls.

Im off the Cotto-Mayweather fight hype....I think May will embarrass him....

I think Mayweather would beat Williams too....he would counter him to death.

So who the hell is left for the guy???

[sonofisis]

In a recent article, it was noted how manipulative Mayweather was by dropping Mosley's name the instant the reporter asked him about Cotto... The old smokescreen tactic. Floyd the magician Mayweather. You can't make the #1 contender disappear Floyd. Panic when he hears Cotto's name. Hahahaha

"Mosley...Mosley.... Mosley..." Haha

Recall when margarito had Floyd stuuttering when he walked up on him. " Oh we gonna do it down the line when it makes more business sense ok?" Had him kissin his ass.

Kepp tellin yourself the buying public is more interested in a Mayweather/Williams?? fight. Jittery Floyd.

“Man, I don’t see nobody that’s going to be able to shut Mayweather up, now,” said Kenny, thinking about all of the possibilities.

“What about Cotto or Mosley or how about that Hearns clone - Paul Williams?” I asked. Clearly I was a desperate man grasping at straws.

“Tom! C’mon,” Kenny said, trying to coach some reality into me. “There ain’t no one around whose gonna’ touch Mayweather. He’d eat Cotto for breakfast and Shane ain’t got the goods no more to handle what I just saw. Floyd ain’t gonna’ fight Williams or Margarito because there ain’t no money in it for him.”

“Yeah, you’re right,” I said. “He’ll probably really retire this time.”

“Oh, jeez, he might as well,” said Kenny. “There ain’t no one out there that can beat that man I saw in there tonight.”

And with that, the phone went dead and Kenny’s voice was replaced by the dull hum of a blank dial tone.

It was just as well. After having told every friend I have that Hatton was assured of victory, the rancid aftertaste of my own words smacked me in the mouth like a “check hook” from the “Pretty Boy”.

[Del Coqui]

Geez, I can see why some peple would pick Floyd to beat Cotto, but you my man need to change your av, instead of showing that kid getting breast fed you need to show your picture getting **** fed by Floyd.

[sonofisis]

Boxing Scene Pound for Pound Top Ten

1) Floyd Mayweather (39-0, 25 KO)

Age: 30

Current Title: World Welterweight/147 lb. Champion (2006-Present)

Career Titles: World Jr. Lightweight/130 lb. champion (1998-2001); World Lightweight/135 lb. champion (2002-04); additional alphabet titles at 140 and 154 lbs.

Last Five Opponents: Ricky Hatton, Oscar De La Hoya, Carlos Baldomir, Zab Judah, Sharmba Mitchell

Up Next: TBA

My Take: Consider that tie broken. The biggest knock on “Money” and the real source of debate between Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao emerged because Floyd wasn’t fighting the best from 2003-2005 and because of the mis-timing of Judah-Mayweather as a pay-per-view show following Judah’s loss to Baldomir. With Hatton left on the floor, one has to look at the whole body of work in a new light. In the last two years and four fights, Floyd’s defeated the last two men (before him) to hold the real World championship at 147 lbs. in Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir), the biggest draw in the game in a still tough Oscar and, to close 2007, the true Jr. Welterweight king in Ricky Hatton. Impressively, he beat Hatton on the inside, which no one predicted. From here the questions will be about Miguel Cotto, a potentially great fight, but let’s be honest…Miguel’s people didn’t even breathe Floyd’s name until seven years into Cotto’s career and seem to have booked away from him already on the 2008 schedule without even attempting to negotiate the fight. The onus is on Miguel Cotto to prove he can beat Floyd and not the other way around. The onus is on anyone to beat Floyd and not the other way around. The first fighter in history to win the lineal titles at 130 and 147 has, with the Hatton win, has defeated the reigning kings of four weight classes in his career and he’s not done yet. He might not quite be Ray Robinson level (yet), but Floyd is knocking on the door of the top twenty fighters that ever lived if he’s not already there.

Im off the Cotto-Mayweather fight hype....I think May will embarrass him....

I think Mayweather would beat Williams too....he would counter him to death.

So who the hell is left for the guy???

I don't take a Cotto match nearly as seriously as some people as Williams would be the ultimate challenge and Williams would break Cotto. Other than Williams, I don't know. Maybe Money should just retire for good like he's been saying since 2006 anyways.

[borikua]

The Original post is hilarious. PBF is the WW Champ, Cotto is the #1 contender. How is calling Cotto the # 1 contender over-rating Cotto? What WW has done more than Cotto to date? You say Paul Williams would KO Cotto but your over-rating PW's and being a total hypocrite.

Cotto has not just beaten over the hill fighters and fringe contenders. Cotto has beaten undefeated, tough young hungry fighters that are still out there winning belts after having only 1 loss to Cotto. The jrWW division is being run by guys Cotto defeated. Malignagi, Torres.

Every one of Cotto's last fights the past 2 years has been a legit threat (exception of his mandatory with Urkal). Paulie, Quintana, Zab, Mosley, Torres.

Please tell me what has PW's done that makes him worthy of your rating but makes Cotto over-rated? Is it his great win over Mitchell?

PBF doesn't have to fight Cotto, but Cotto definitely is the most deserving of all WW's which makes him not over-rated as the #1 contender.

Great ***in post.

[ferocity]

Not because he's beaten nothing but faded champs and inexperienced fringe contenders barely out of the Olympics, and not because most of his wins were at a weight class that he was too big for, but because people consider him to be this much of a threat to Floyd Mayweather even after knowing these facts.

All that we've been getting directly proceeding Mayweather's brutal KO victory, is references to Cotto this and how Floyd is ducking him or avoiding him, etc, etc.. Listen. I am being so honest when I say that Miguel Cotto is absolutely nothing without PBF. You are building him into another Margarito based on Floyd's name; it is an endless cycle. The acclaim basically comes from two wins through out his 31 fight and 6 year career.

Mosley and Zab Judah


* It is so undeniably hilarious that Floyd almost gets no credit for beating Zab, but Cotto does, even with the year lay-off and previous 2 losses. It bewilders the mind.

* Mosley is 36 (4 years away from 40) and hasn't had a belt since 2003. That is four years out of your prime. Even Oscar is only 34 and had a belt when Mayweather fought him. Mosley had been reduced to fighting contenders and washed up former champions. He hadn't been a belt holder at Welter Weight since 2001. Cotto was barely starting his career the last time he was Welter weight champ, 6 full calendar years ago.


Therefore, Cotto's status among some of his deranged fans is unjustified. Moving up from 140 before winning a lineal title is already a bad sign and he still hasn't won one, yet Mayweather did in his 18th fight. If Mayweather leaves then it is up to him to fight for lineal supremacy, but depending on a semi-retired Floyd Mayweather for it is just being a crybaby. Work like he did and tell your fans to stop bitching. Maybe someday you'll be as great as Floyd Mayweather jr...

Paul Williams would kill Cotto btw, imho..

Shut your trap already. You're ridicules and just so you know Floyd was a big 130 pound fighter. And he fought a lot of warn out fighters, contenders and Judah coming off a lose. go to sleep.

[ferocity]

Im off the Cotto-Mayweather fight hype....I think May will embarrass him....

I think Mayweather would beat Williams too....he would counter him to death.

So who the hell is left for the guy???

I think he should fight Mayorga, LMFAO!

If he embarres Cotto then you know what onto the next fighter once he cleans out the division no one can talk ****, then he can go onto the father role. Till then he has a lot of competition still at welterweight.

[MaFu MoFo]

The Original post is hilarious. PBF is the WW Champ, Cotto is the #1 contender. How is calling Cotto the # 1 contender over-rating Cotto? What WW has done more than Cotto to date? You say Paul Williams would KO Cotto but your over-rating PW's and being a total hypocrite.

Cotto has not just beaten over the hill fighters and fringe contenders. Cotto has beaten undefeated, tough young hungry fighters that are still out there winning belts after having only 1 loss to Cotto. The jrWW division is being run by guys Cotto defeated. Malignagi, Torres.

Every one of Cotto's last fights the past 2 years has been a legit threat (exception of his mandatory with Urkal). Paulie, Quintana, Zab, Mosley, Torres.

Please tell me what has PW's done that makes him worthy of your rating but makes Cotto over-rated? Is it his great win over Mitchell?

PBF doesn't have to fight Cotto, but Cotto definitely is the most deserving of all WW's which makes him not over-rated as the #1 contender.

Cotto / VSosa,TKO/Chop Chop,TKO/ZJudah,TKO/SMosley UD

MAYWEATHER / VSosa,UD/Chop Chop,UD/ZJudah,UD/ODLH SD

You defending Floyd's win over Oscar and berating Cotto for his win over Mosely is what is undeniably hilarious.

There was a time when Cotto was overrated, gotta agree there. But he has taken good level of opposition, better than most fighters and keeps shutting haters up. Pisses you off doesn't it? I would love to see him in there with Williams or Margarito thou, that should be enough proof that he's a legit star.

First off I agree that Mayweather would beat Cotto but dont get it twisted Cotto is not overrated. He has earned his spot to be named as one of the top Welterweights. Yeah, Mayweather decisioned Judah, but Cotto stopped him, he also was the first to beat Shane at Welterweight, beat an unbeaten and current IBF light welter champ Pauli Malignaggi, an undefeated Quintana, and also a current WBO light Welterweight champ in Torres.........Please give the fighters credit where credit is due

Cotto has been brung along the same way Oscar and PBF where when they where with Top Rank, but people tend to forget that. 90% of the people picked Judah and Mosley to KO him and he passed the test. PBF is the better pure boxer but win it comes to heart he can"t compare to Cotto. PBF could hit Cotto with everything he has and Cotto would walk right on through. If Mosley and Zab could not KO Cotto how could Floyed. When he came up in weight he did no bring that KO power (Ricky does not count, 5"6 140lbs is nothing compared to what true ww bring)

Well then you should get use to having that problem because Cotto is exactly that guy. Mayweather vs Cotto is litterally the fight of the decade, and Cotto will go down in history as just another fighter Mayweather ducked in his over-rated career.

I mean Hatton is 1/4th of what Cotto is, and thats being generous. It should have been Cotto in there on saturday and as confused and as off balance as Mayweather looked just from a little Hatton pressure early, imagine twice as much pressure from a fighter thats twice as strong that can last 12 entire rounds. Somthin tells me Mayweather wouldn't be able to hold up.

PBF may go around claiming to be the "GREATEST OF ALL-TIME" and the GREATEST fighter ever to lace on the gloves, then the DETROIT LIONS are the best team ever to step on the field. PBF was blessed with all the ability in the worl (minus punching power). But he took his foot off the pedal far to early in his career, in terms of who he fought and how he fought them. At jlw he was spectacular, cleaning out the division in dominate fashion. At lw he was not dominate, but he did fight the best (Jose Luis Castillo). Since moving up to 140, 147, 154lbs however he's ben to selective about who he fights and too disinterested in knocking them out. At 30 PBF still has time to take on huge challenges, overcome them sensationally and become know as the best fighter of this era. But based purely on what he's done so far sorry, Floyed-that "greatest of all-time" crap is more comical than compelling. (THE KO OF RICKY DOES NOT COUNT " 5'6 140 LBS AND WHEN YOU HAVE A 6' REACH ON YOUR GUY COME ON) Fight the true hard core ww then lay claim as the best.

AGREE WITH Y'ALL!!!