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  • Newyorkknicks07
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    #131
    Originally posted by raysan
    I think Cotto knocking out the common opponents he has with Floyd has a lot to do with it. Plus, he can cut off the ring, punch hard, pressure fighters, box, and for the most part can take a punch, who wouldn't want to see him in there with Floyd?
    agreed. If anything, Cotto is underrated and Mayweather has only beat fading champs either. Judah and De La Hoya and Baldomir? Thoose are his celebrated victories? And when he does face worthy opponents he always just barley beats them. Cotto is more then a worthy opponent and would shut down Mayweather.

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    • AntonTheMeh
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      #132
      Originally posted by sonofisis
      In other words, you're just playing games and was planning to type this nonsense no matter what I said. Of course you're going to defend your countrymen at all costs, but don't make your self look like a dreuling **** sucker in the process.

      your a ****ing clown the biggest nutjuggler here

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      • sonofisis
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        #133
        Originally posted by Newyorkknicks07
        agreed. If anything, Cotto is underrated and Mayweather has only beat fading champs either. Judah and De La Hoya and Baldomir? Thoose are his celebrated victories?
        These are good/great wins, but his "celebrated" vicories are more along the lines of beating G. Hernandez, Corrales, Castillo, and even Hatton now. Cotto has no victory of that stature, nor can you pretend that they're in the same boat and Mayweather took the same path. Mayweather was lineal champ in his 18th fight. Cotto is 31-0 and still hasn't won a legit title. The guy (Floyd) ran through 5 weight classes, Cotto barely made it out of a weight class that he was too big for with out almost getting KOed once or twice (corley and Torres).

        And when he does face worthy opponents he always just barley beats them. Cotto is more then a worthy opponent and would shut down Mayweather.
        Cotto barley beat Mosley and Mayweather's only fight where he was underdog, he totally blew the guy out (Corrales). You make no sense, Cotto's resume absolutely stinks in comparison, which is understandable because he's new, but stop cherry picking and telling half of the story. It is dishonest and this is why I say Cotto is overrated. ****** **** like this.

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        • old68
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          #134
          Originally posted by sonofisis
          Mayweather's only fight where he was underdog, he totally blew the guy out (Corrales).
          Sounds like you think he´s been taking easy fights since Corrales then.

          PS dont forget to mention Cotto has disposed of several common opponents more handily than your master, including Corley, who spent more time on his knees than on his feet.
          Last edited by old68; 12-12-2007, 06:32 PM.

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          • sonofisis
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            #135
            Originally posted by old68
            Sounds like you think he´s been taking easy fights since Corrales then.
            No, and it's a mighty stretch to for you to assume that. His last fight wasn't easy. His fight directly proceeding Corrales wasn't easy. What is easy is for me to realize that you're totally clueless as to what I said.

            Originally posted by old68
            Sounds like you think he´s been taking easy fights since Corrales then.

            PS dont forget to mention Cotto has disposed of several common opponents more handily than your master, including Corley, who spent more time on his knees than on his feet.
            All of them were leftovers (Floyd already softened them up) and until he disposes of champions in 5 different weight classes, I'm not impressed. Nor was he more impressive, he simply hit them harder.

            Hatton disposed of Tony Pep in 4 rounds while Pep went the distance with Mayweather. We saw what happened there. Styles make fights which is why Cotto isn't p4p#1 and the vast majority of boxing writers consider Floyd to be the much better fighter, as does Sugar Ray Leonard (see my sig) and many others.
            Last edited by sonofisis; 12-12-2007, 06:40 PM.

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            • guzi815
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              #136
              Ay man, you forget one thing.....

              1) Floyd Mayweather had trouble with Victoriano Sosa.....UD 12th
              Cotto TKO'd Sosa in the 4th!
              2) Floyd Mayweather went the distance with Corley....UD 12th
              Miguel Cotto TKO'd Corley in the 5th!
              3) Floyd went the distance with Zab...UD 12th
              Cotto blasted him into submission!!!

              Dudes that Floyd couldn't take out and went on to a Unanimus Decision, Cotto destroyed. That says alot. Floyd would have a hard time with Cotto. Be a true to yourself and admit that it is "what it is". I never said that Cotto would beat Mayweather, but your boy is ducking Cotto. If you're the greatest fighter.....MONEY wouldn't be an issue....unless you know deep down the risk factor is exceeding HIGH!!!

              Do some push-ups you!!!!
              Last edited by guzi815; 12-12-2007, 06:42 PM.

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                #137
                You just said he always fights with the odds in his favor ergo he does not take a challenge. Now go about your pathetic day trying to shine on these boards all day by stroking Mayweathers e-**** and generaly just being a ****.

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                • GunStar
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                  #138
                  I think Joe Calzaghe is more overrated then Cotto, people think Joe can't be beaten, Joe is the Ray Robinson of his era for beating Kessler, Lacy and Reid by the age of 35...Oops I forgot Reid was robbed!

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                  • sonofisis
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by guzi815
                    Ay man, you forget one thing.....

                    1) Floyd Mayweather had trouble with Victoriano Sosa.....UD 12th
                    How do you figure he had trouble with him when he won a wide UD?
                    Cotto TKO'd Sosa in the 4th!
                    AFTER Floyd took that much more of his confidence and after Sosa moved up in weight. Why are you bragging about Cotto beating leftovers? Tell Cotto to KO DLH, Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, etc... Let him move up in weight and still get these TKOs, like Floyd did. Let him win 6 titles in 5 different weights.


                    2) Floyd Mayweather went the distance with Corley....UD 12th
                    After knocking him down twice..
                    Miguel Cotto TKO'd Corley in the 5th!
                    After almost getting knocked out himself.

                    3) Floyd went the distance with Zab...UD 12th
                    Was on the verge of a TKO before Judah low blowed him.
                    Cotto blasted him into submission!!!
                    After Cotto almost got his head taken off, after he low blowed him twice, and after Judah was laid-off for a year and coming off two losses

                    Dudes that Floyd couldn't take out and went on to a Unanimus Decision, Cotto destroyed.
                    They are completely different fighters with different styles, it does not mean Cotto's style works better than Floyd's or that he's better at winning since he's definitely not. More of his fights were a lot closer, including his last one. This is like saying Tyson is better than Ali. And Cotto is no Tyson.

                    That says alot.
                    It says nothing and all of them were leftovers, why do people ignore this?

                    Floyd would have a hard time with Cotto.
                    Maybe, but I see him winning decisively and see Paul Williams as a bigger test.

                    Be a true to yourself and admit that it is "what it is".
                    What is it? I don't get it... The only thing I subscribe to is Floyd being the better fighter, which is the consensus view anyways.

                    I never said that Cotto would beat Mayweather, but your boy is ducking Cotto.

                    Nobody needs to duck a contender who just started his career by beating a faded champ. Floyd passed him up at light weight. Please, cut the bull****, nobody needs to duck Cotto because relatively speaking, Cotto is a nobody. Floyd has been talking about retirement since Baldomir.



                    If you're the greatest fighter.....
                    He's not, he's top 20 at best. This is a distraction and beating Cotto does nothing for his legacy. Cotto is not Hagler, no where near it, just some contender with barely 30 fights under his belt.

                    MONEY wouldn't be an issue....unless you know deep down the risk factor is exceeding HIGH!!!
                    Only thing I'm concerned about is you bed bugs constantly bugging a man while he's trying to sleep. Leave Floyd alone, he's on a vacation. Tell Cotto to get his ass kicked by Williams.

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                    • nmuburner22
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                      #140
                      Im thinking the consensus is that Cotto will lose this fight....

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