Floyd Mayweather Jr. v/s Sugar Ray Leonard at @147

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  • sonofisis
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    #31
    Originally posted by ThaHorseman
    Ha ha ha. Thank you for informing us about Floyd's metabolism. You really think being hydrated does help give you energy/power? Please tell me you were kidding.
    Haha, lmao @ this weirdo trying to estimate his metabolism rate from a distance and externally, then questioning another's understanding of "weight dynamics".

    Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
    You guys show your ignorance of boxing weight dynamics. Mayweather is at the weltweight limit with solid rock muscle. At the weigh ins, Mosley and Cotto would be the same. So what if they gain some water weight back in time for the fight? That is not weight that enhances their power or whatnot.

    Imagine if Floyd had a normal metabolism for his age, he would have the same weight draining issues as those guys. He has a remarkable metabolism that has fooled you into thinking he is much smaller.
    Ironically, you only further prove my point. Mayweather bulked up by working, eating, and gaining muscle. Cotto for example, looked drained at his last weigh in and at most, yet still checked in at the welter weight limit. Cotto is not as ripped. Yet you mean to tell me that if Cotto ate and bulked up in the same fashion as Floyd, with arms, abs, etc, that he'd still be fighting at the welter weight limit? Same with Shane who can easily fight at 154 and make the weight.

    Surely you make no sense and Cotto is naturally the bigger man who has to stay slightly drained to make weight.

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    • ThaHorseman
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      #32
      Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
      You dont/cant get it.
      I think its fairly obvious that you know very little about the human body and athletics.

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      • BmoreBrawler
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        #33
        Originally posted by sonofisis
        Haha, lmao @ this weirdo trying to estimate his metabolism rate from a distance and externally, then questioning another's understanding of "weight dynamics".



        Ironically, you only further prove my point. Mayweather bulked up by working, eating, and gaining muscle. Cotto for example, looked drained at his last weigh in and at most, yet still checked in at the welter weight limit. Cotto is not as ripped. Yet you mean to tell me that if Cotto ate and bulked up in the same fashion as Floyd, with arms, abs, etc, that he'd still be fighting at the welter weight limit? Same with Shane who can easily fight at 154 and make the weight.

        Surely you make no sense and Cotto is naturally the bigger man who has to stay slightly drained to make weight.
        #1 Or...maybe I judge it from the fact that floyd is 5-8 and still gains almost no weight taking it relatively slow as all boxers do from the final weigh in to fightnight. Good for him, I'm the same way.

        #2. Dont you see that that bulk puts Floyd on par with a weight drained cotto as far as "being a welterweight"? It is all useful weight. Cotto does not become "more of a welterweight" by gaining lbs of basically nothing of value in between the final weigh in and the fight. Cotto MIGHT have an easier time being a legit jr middleweight than floyd, but that doesnt mean at weltweight they arent equal.

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        • BmoreBrawler
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          #34
          Originally posted by ThaHorseman
          I think its fairly obvious that you know very little about the human body and athletics.
          Raise your hand if you have trained for boxing

          Raise your hand if you playd varsity B-ball and Soccer

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          • sonofisis
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            #35
            Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
            #1 Or...maybe I judge it from the fact that floyd is 5-8 and still gains almost no weight taking it relatively slow as all boxers do from the final weigh in to fightnight. Good for him, I'm the same way.
            Yes, it's obvious once more that you're completely ignorant of physiology and anatomy. If Floyd is 5'8, yet still doesn't gain weight, it means that his body plan is elongated. He has a body plan built for tropical adaptation. He is naturally small. An elephant is bigger than a Giraffe, yet a Giraffe is taller.

            Get it? Good.

            #2. Dont you see that that bulk puts Floyd on par with a weight drained cotto as far as "being a welterweight"?
            Not naturally since what Cotto is doing is unnatural! He forces himself to make weight, Floyd doesn't. Like I've stated, Cotto is the naturally bigger man with the naturally bigger frame and naturally bigger bulk, WHICH IS WHY HE LOOKS MORE DRAINED AT THE SAME WEIGHT.

            It is all useful weight. Cotto does not become "more of a welterweight" by gaining lbs of basically nothing of value in between the final weigh in and the fight. Cotto MIGHT have an easier time being a legit jr middleweight than floyd, but that doesnt mean at weltweight they arent equal.
            The weight division scam is a ruse. All this talk about who's more of a welter weight this and that, who should fight where. The point is this. Cotto is OBVIOUSLY (to anybody with eyes and experience) a larger human being, naturally. This is actually in his genetics as he talks about how he was young that he used to be chunky.

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              #36
              Originally posted by sonofisis
              The weight division scam is a ruse. All this talk about who's more of a welter weight this and that, who should fight where. The point is this. Cotto is OBVIOUSLY (to anybody with eyes and experience) a larger human being, naturally. This is actually in his genetics as he talks about how he was young that he used to be chunky.
              The PURPOSE of this whole discussion is whether Floyd is as much a welterweight as Cotto. Cotto may have a larger bone structure or something, but both have the same amount of conditioned muscle(147lbs) come fight night.

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                #37
                Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
                Raise your hand if you have trained for boxing

                Raise your hand if you playd varsity B-ball and Soccer
                Varsity B-ball and soccer eh??? *snickers* Wow.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sonofisis
                  Mayweather hasn't grown into anything. He is the smallest "welter weight" in the division. Name one person other than Zab (who also moved up in weight) that is his size and stature? The only reason he even belongs there is because of his skill level.
                  Antonio Margarito came up from the 135 pound division.

                  And floyd fans need to accept the facts, Mayweather is a legit welterweight. He was bigger then Mayweather and looked the same as Delahoya. Stop with the excuses for Mayweather.


                  For the record, Ray Leonard would be too much for floyd. People who talk about defence and forget to mention that Leonard fought and beat one of the greatest defensive fighters ever in Wilfredo Benitez. Ray would ko floyd.

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                  • BmoreBrawler
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ThaHorseman
                    Varsity B-ball and soccer eh??? *snickers* Wow.
                    Better than you sitting on your pimply white ass in you parents house at age 24 doing crystal meth.

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                      #40
                      i agree with bmore

                      #1 cuz hes right

                      #2 before the fight sonofoofoffo tried to say hatton was bigger than mayweather... which not one person would agree too

                      and #3: sonofofoffofo is annoying as **** to EVERYONE on this forum

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