Mayweather will beat Cotto EASILY

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  • ßringer
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    #41
    Originally posted by RightHandLead
    I honeslty think he should retire for good after Cotto.
    40-0 sounds good to me. Nice even number.

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    • sonofisis
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      #42
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      WIlliams would beat Mayweather by a wide decision. With all of his advantages in height and reach, and that ****ing ludacris work rate of his, Mayweather would likely look amateur.

      Williams should be a light Middle or Middleweight IMO, he's too big for 147lbs, it's why nobody wants to fight him aside from Cintron. It's simply not a fair fight.
      I agree, but saying Mayweather would look amateur is always a funny thing to read/hear... Doesn't sound right. I think a better word would be awkward or really "uncomfortable", though I agree with what you mean.

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      • DiegoFuego
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        #43
        Originally posted by Kball15
        except.... he had both arms so it wasnt a disadvantage. He hurt it but he was still throwing it so its not an excuse. He ****** it up and fought. It obviously wasnt bad enough to effect his game or he wouldnt have fought.

        I give him a lot of credit for figuring Castillo out and beating him the second time.

        But Mayweather fans just have to conceed that He had a lot of trouble with Castillos pressure, and injury was a fallback excuse.



        I am nothing CLOSE to a floyd hater, i love watching this man operate in the ring, but Floyd has PISSED me off by retiring after every damn fight!!!! its rediculous.

        He HAS to get in the ring with Cotto, or else stop ****ing calling urself the greatest of all time, cause u havent proved that yet!

        You can say all u want that Floyd would woop this guy or that guy, but its not the same as actually getting in there and doing it!!!
        but there will always be someone else. nothing will ever be enough for anyone. I wanna see him fight Cotto too, but doesn't Cotto need to build a name to share a ring with him?

        did you hate Oscar for never fighting Winky and Vernon Forrest? because it's the same ****ing ****.

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        • RightHandLead
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          #44
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          40-0 sounds good to me. Nice even number.
          I just hate to see a fighter get beat due to old age. It happened to my idols Ray Leonard and Pernell Whittaker. I just don't wanna see Floyd get done like that too. Also- your boy B-Hop soulda retired after Winky or Tarver.

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          • FISTIC ART
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            #45
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            I agree .............

            However lets be reasonable about mayweather.........

            and everyone knows im a huge fan...............

            but you cant look at urself and say i have no faults.........

            so we must be honest about mayweather as well as ourselves.......

            from 140 down mayweather has fought the best there was..........

            from 140 up he's hand picked his opponents......

            and not the best of them...........

            thats not to say they were all bums....

            but quite a few..............

            me i think mayweather moved up in weight class way too much......

            if he wanted to go back down people would say he's ducking people...

            so he's stuck at this point........

            one thing i dont like about mayweather is how he talks about other boxers of the past........

            i think mayweather is great..... however if he had fought leonard....

            leonard would have kicked mayweathers ass.........

            leonard fought top 10 competition before he was 26 .... and before he fought for a world title.....thats scary.......

            i might misquote this but someone correct me if im wrong.....

            he fought duran...benitez and hearns.........before fighting for a title..and he had that what...3 year layoff because of his eye...if he had been active during that time he might be 2nd all time only to ali... boxers of the past are measured by their competion during their era....

            also alot of the fighters he fought are in the hall of fame.......

            what im trying to say is that mayweather hasnt faced the best of competition on the way up...and although i think he is smart in hand picking his opponents... it dosent in my eyes do much for his legacy....

            again mayweather is great....

            but in order to secure his legacy i think he needs to clean out this division.....

            i also get annoyed at floyd when he says i went up in weight 5 times... im 6 time world champion...

            but floyd in all honesty who have you beaten on the way up.......

            i said before the fight with hatton that hatton is a bum... not to discredit hatton but more to point out that again floyd picked an opponent he knew he would win against.......

            peple may disagree with me... and thats ok.......

            but i try to remain neutral even if im a fan to try to give an honest opinion...and not one thats swayed by ohhhh mayweather he's so great he can do no wrong...

            he's accomplished alot........ i give him full credit......

            but mayweather is no leonard...not even close..........

            however if he cleans out this division.... in my eyes he would be in the top 5 all time.........
            Last edited by FISTIC ART; 12-10-2007, 08:15 PM. Reason: ..............

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            • Kball15
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              #46
              Originally posted by DiegoFuego
              Pavlik's chin + Taylor gassing won him that fight and nothing else. I'm not saying Taylor wins the rematch because, like I said, he's mentally weak. the fact that he wanted the rematch is reassuring, but until I see Pavlik systematically break someone down (rather than throwing with the other guy until somebody goes down), then I'm not going to say he's a technical fighter with boxing ability. I saw him slug with Miranda, putting himself in harm's way. well, he's got a good chin so he gets away with it, but if the guy could box, how the **** could Miranda even hit him as bad as Miranda is?
              Pavlik went in there with a clear gameplan that he announced to the world.

              He was going to BACK MIRAND UP, cause Miranda isnt the same fighter going backwards going forwards.

              And Pavlik had the stones to actually do that, and he knocked Miranda out spectacularly.

              Pavlik stystematically destroyed Jose Luis Zertuche, who is a tough ass fighter, and left him ruined when the fight was over. He also destroyed Zuniga, who is another talented boxer, by breaking down round by round.

              Pavlik can do everything well, which is why he's close to crackin the top 10.

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              • sonofisis
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                #47
                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                40-0 sounds good to me. Nice even number.
                I was just looking at Aaron Pryor's record, which even makes Floyd's current look all the more natural to me (and better)..

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RightHandLead
                  I just hate to see a fighter get beat due to old age. It happened to my idols Ray Leonard and Pernell Whittaker. I just don't wanna see Floyd get done like that too. Also- your boy B-Hop soulda retired after Winky or Tarver.
                  When he (Hops) retired after Tarver, the forum was flooded with posts of people talking of their respect for him, and how much they'd miss him. Now that he's back, they ****ing hate him, it's moronic. It's like you only respect a guy once he's gone.

                  I think a better word would be awkward or really "uncomfortable", though I agree with what you mean.
                  Amateur was a horrible word to pick, but as long as you got my point it's all good. "Uncomfortable" is the better term there. But it's simply not a fair fight, and if anyone actually wants to see it happen, I suggest they should want to see Manny Pacquiao take on Antonio Margarito afterwards.

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                  • RightHandLead
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by sonofisis
                    I was just looking at Aaron Pryor's record, which even makes Floyd's current look all the more natural to me (and better)..
                    I think Pryor would do what Hatton did, without smothering himself like a hugging idiot. So it would be a very close, good fight.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by nmuburner22
                      Cotto lacks the thing that made the ODH fight semi close...THE JAB.
                      Cotto lacks the jab? LOLOL

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