Mayweather will beat Cotto EASILY
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I don't see anybody at welter giving Floyd any problems. Cotto would get picked apart, williams yea he has a huge work rate but I don't think he would throw that many punches against him because Floyd would be countering all night over that lazy jab.Imo Floyd would get his respect real quick. The only person I thought might give Floyd some problems was Mosley simply cuz he would almost be able to match speed, good countering ability, descent power, and a good set of whiskers but after the Cotto fight its clear to me that there is nobody at welter that can **** with the king! Maybe Winky or Vernon at jr. middle could knock him off but it would have to be a naturally bigger man w/ good defense to stop that straight right hand.Comment
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Originally posted by sonofisisCalling people bums is just childish. I don't understand the simplistic lingo on this website and over generalizations as if there's no cline but architypes of bum vs. champ. It is high school. Also, as long as Mayweather is mentioned 10 years from now (which he will be), so will his opponents and for your info, SRL won belts at Super Middle Weight and Light Heavy but didn't fight the best there. Floyd positively fought the best at 130/135, Leonard at 147. You are holding them to a different standard because you're seeing it live.
In my original post i said ..........
that from 140 down floyd fought the best ......
from 140 up he handpicked guys.......
now its ok though...
but floyd cant use that i went up 5 weight classes and fought the best line.......
he went up in weight too much.....
you can only go up so much and be effective............
i could be the best fighter in the world at all martial arts....
and a bear would maul me to death.....
even if we are watching it live....
in 20 years noone will mention ...zab..gatti...hatton...or baldomir...
oscar yes............
they will say yea ummmmm whats his name...gotti..no..gatti yea thats it he was a gym boxer or something who had some krazee fights where he hit and always got hit back....lol...........
its like mayweathers defense ...........
its genius..........
but now noone pays attention to defense.........
back in the days...even the worst bum who was 1-42....
had defense........
today defense is overlooked..........Comment
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I don't see anybody at welter giving Floyd any problems. Cotto would get picked apart, williams yea he has a huge work rate but I don't think he would throw that many punches against him because Floyd would be countering all night over that lazy jab.Imo Floyd would get his respect real quick. The only person I thought might give Floyd some problems was Mosley simply cuz he would almost be able to match speed, good countering ability, descent power, and a good set of whiskers but after the Cotto fight its clear to me that there is nobody at welter that can **** with the king! Maybe Winky or Vernon at jr. middle could knock him off but it would have to be a naturally bigger man w/ good defense to stop that straight right hand.
There u go ...........
i can agree with this...........
but floyd has to fight them................Comment
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sonofisis..........
in 20 years noone will know who ....
gatti ...hatton..baldomir or zab were............
but they will still be talking about hearns ...duran...and hagler........
unless of course the end is near and the world ends...lol.Comment
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In 20 years people will remember Gatti for having 3 Fight Of The Year awards
Zab for being the man at 140 and 147, destroying spinks in his hometown, etc.
Hatton for beating a legend at 140 in Kostya and beating Castillo as well as unifying the lightwelterweight division and then winning the welterweight title, two weight champion.
They might not remember Baldomir as the Cinderella man who upset the odds and got two big victories but they will remember Gatti for his fights and Hatton for his accomplishments, incase you did'nt know Hatton is a national hero in UK, and is a big draw.Comment
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of course
Which is a slick, hipster comment with no defining power. Please explain and provide undeniable evidence since you make the claim.from 140 up he handpicked guys.......
Please:
1)Define "handpicking"
2)Explain how Floyd did this intentionally and that it was his choice to do so
Neither can Sugar Ray Leonard because he only fought th best at 147 and 160, even though he won belts in 5 different divisions. Stop ignoring that.now its ok though...
but floyd cant use that i went up 5 weight classes and fought the best line.......
He looks effective to me at 147..he went up in weight too much.....
you can only go up so much and be effective............
You can't predict that they'd mention ANYBODY in 20 years from now who is at welter weight. There are no hall of famers at welter weight at all (except Shane maybe), so why is this important? If Floyd beat Cotto and Williams, and both lost another fight after, then no one would mention them either unless in association with Floyd. Also I think they would mention Gatti, I disagree with you there. Sort of like Ray Mancini.i could be the best fighter in the world at all martial arts....
and a bear would maul me to death.....
even if we are watching it live....
in 20 years noone will mention ...zab..gatti...hatton...or baldomir...
oscar yes............
Again, they're not mentioning anybody at welter weight other than Floyd and Shane as it is right now.they will say yea ummmmm whats his name...gotti..no..gatti yea thats it he was a gym boxer or something who had some krazee fights where he hit and always got hit back....lol...........
Defense is overlooked but not overrated and Mayweather has grossed the biggest event in boxing history, so what's your point here?its like mayweathers defense ...........
its genius..........
but now noone pays attention to defense.........
back in the days...even the worst bum who was 1-42....
had defense........
today defense is overlooked..........Last edited by sonofisis; 12-10-2007, 09:06 PM.Comment
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thanks for the debate ........i leave you with this.........
all boxers are measured by who they fought...........
floyd from 140 down fought the best...........
140 up ..not so............
so i hope if he retires tomorrow for good.... he is ranked high...but i doubt it will be that high.........
i say this because i have confidence in floyd i think he can beat cotto and williams......
he is just choosing not to .....
and not that he's ducking them he's just not thinking about them..........
you will always be remebered by who you fought.....
and to me zab..baldomir...hatton...and gatti...just dont do it for me......
but perhaps the competition he fought from 140 down will be enough......
history will tell...............Comment
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Whatever.. I hate it when people don't answer my questions or respond accordingly. This is why I split up paragraphs, to get a clear understanding. Talking over people means that you don't listen and if you don't listen it means that you have more to learn. My points about Sugar Ray Leonard stand and it is my opinion that you hold Floyd to a higher standard.thanks for the debate ........i leave you with this.........
all boxers are measured by who they fought...........
floyd from 140 down fought the best...........
140 up ..not so............
so i hope if he retires tomorrow for good.... he is ranked high...but i doubt it will be that high.........
i say this because i have confidence in floyd i think he can beat cotto and williams......
he is just choosing not to .....
and not that he's ducking them he's just not thinking about them..........
you will always be remebered by who you fought.....
and to me zab..baldomir...hatton...and gatti...just dont do it for me......
but perhaps the competition he fought from 140 down will be enough......
history will tell...............Comment
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