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  • NAPO
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    #61
    yeah man i did not know what happened to him??? he's one of the best referees!!!

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    • Ray  Ray
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      #62
      Originally posted by shawn_
      Believe it or not, Body shots actually take alot of energy out of a fighter.

      Beleive it or not, Working your way inside against a taller hard hitting fighter takes alot of energy.

      Beleive it or not, Joe Cortez sparing Floyd the body assault, and forcing Ricky to repeatedly work his way inside EFFECTED THE FIGHT.

      I believe that without Joe Cortezs intervention, the fight would have went the distance. Ricky got tired. Ricky got careless, Ricky got caught, Ricky got knocked out.

      Ricking getting tired is directly related to Joe Cortez. Therefore, Ricky getting careless is directly related to Joe Cortez. Therefore, Ricky getting knocked out is DIRECTLY RELATED TO JOE CORTEZ.

      Ok whatever you say.

      I'm gone for the night Keep thinking that Cortez helped Mayweather gain a TKO because I'm not buying that ****. Hatton was eating a lot of leather before Cortez stepped in and tried to stop the clinching.

      So believe in your bull**** theory all you want to. LMFAO.

      KEEP ON HATING

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      • shawn_
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        #63
        Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
        You can try to belittle Floyd all you want to homie but he won the fight fair and square. DEAL WITH IT. You can blame the ref all you want but its in the books and it aint **** you can do or say to change the outcome.

        NOW YOU BE FOR REAL AND STOP BLAMING THE REF. AND ACCEPT THE OUTCOME.
        Incase you missed it, I predicted Floyd by a WIDE UD. I never gave Ricky Hatton a chance in hell of winning this fight. The fight played out exactly as I predicted it would. There is nothing for me to get over.

        I am pissed off the Joe Cortez EFFECTED THE FIGHT. I dont give a **** who won, Joe artificially altered the course of the fight. Had Joe Cortez not been there, it would have been a different fight. Floyd would still come out victorious, but it would have taken MUCH more effort on his part to do so.

        Floyd didn't even have to leave first gear for this fight. Every time they started to pick up speed, Joe Cortez slammed on the breaks.

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          #64
          Originally posted by CraigM
          You really want an explanation?

          Ricky wasn't allowed to fight on the inside and Floyd kept turning away from him or ducking below the waistline getting away without caution. By the time of the point reduction floyd blatently milked it.

          This really pissed Ricky off who admittedly should have kept his cool but changed his fight completely, if you get a point deducted against the best fighter in the world, you panic and open yourself up a lot more.

          Because he was more open he got caught a lot more, before the point reduction Ricky wasn't in any trouble, same time it was a hell of a hook that caught Ricky and that can't be taken away from Mayweather, but Cortez shouldn't have acted like he did

          Cut the bull****

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          • CraigM
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            #65
            Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
            Cut the bull****

            So did you think he did the right thing by jumping in a hell of a lot, don't get me wrong, Mayweather was winning regardless but Joe Cortez loves the camera a bit too much.

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            • shawn_
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              #66
              Originally posted by sweet pea 50
              I KNEW this **** was going to happen.
              The gloves.. the size of the ring... JOE CORTEZ...
              In the 8th and 9th rounds, Mayweather not only smashed Hatton on the outside.. He out worked Hatton on the INSIDE as well. Well placed body shots, while Hatton was trying to hit Mayweather during the clinches.
              Watch the fight again. You'll see Mayweather start going to the body with some pretty good shots in those rounds.
              Whatever. I had Mayweather winning by TKO in the 10th.
              I was wrong.
              But not by much.
              Obviously Mayweather worked his magic in the later rounds, because.... He had lots of energy.

              Why did he have lots of energy? Joe Cortez prevented Ricky Hatton from working in the early rounds.

              Anyone with even a moderate understanding of boxing knows that by investing a good body attack in the early rounds, you will be rewarded with a slower opponent in the later rounds.

              Its called investing because you have to put something into get something out. Ricky put something in. He put alot in, in the form of energy. Joe Cortez acted like a crook and ran away with Rickys money.

              Ricky never had a chance to see a return on his investment. He basically got robbed of half his money, then had to continue fighting a nice fresh Mayweather. Who going into the fight was more then a fresh Ricky Hatton could deal with. A tired and worn out Ricky Hatton? Forget about it. Mayweather made easy work of Hatton in the later rounds thanks to Joe Cortez.
              Last edited by shawn_; 12-09-2007, 02:14 AM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by CraigM
                So did you think he did the right thing by jumping in a hell of a lot, don't get me wrong, Mayweather was winning regardless but Joe Cortez loves the camera a bit too much.
                I'm not dis*****g that but Hatton did do a lot of clinching believe it or not ( I know Floyd got some holds in also but Hatton did most of the clinching) but my dispute is how did Cortez play a role in Hatton getting knocked out. That is beyond my reasoning and I'm open to hear your opinion.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                  He really was.... Floyd hit hatton with so many elbows and his trademark forearm to the face all night. I thought all that stuff was illegal. I knew Floyd was gonna use it because he used it against Castillo and it worked good, but this time he didnt stop using it ALL night and Joe was oblivious to it even when up close. Was he even looking at the fight?
                  Re-watch the fight, Joe Cortez was not looking at Floyd, he was looking at Hatton. Joe Cortez came into this fight with one thing in mind, prevent Hatton from doing anything remotely resembling holding.

                  In the process, he completely neglected all of the blatant fouls Floyd was committing,

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                  • shawn_
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
                    I'm not dis*****g that but Hatton did do a lot of clinching believe it or not ( I know Floyd got some holds in also but Hatton did most of the clinching) but my dispute is how did Cortez play a role in Hatton getting knocked out. That is beyond my reasoning and I'm open to hear your opinion.
                    I already explained it to you, in a very logical manner, in a few different ways. However, you seem to have conveniently ignored my responses, as they do not fit your twisted view of reality.

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                    • CraigM
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
                      I'm not dis*****g that but Hatton did do a lot of clinching believe it or not ( I know Floyd got some holds in also but Hatton did most of the clinching) but my dispute is how did Cortez play a role in Hatton getting knocked out. That is beyond my reasoning and I'm open to hear your opinion.
                      Wrong person man, I admitted that shot that caught Ricky was one hell of a shot, would have took most fighters out and it upsets me to admit that Mayweather was the better man on the night, but he was.

                      Just so so annoyed with Cortez's behaviour in the first few rounds, he'd break before they had a chance.

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