Floyd Mayweather Jr: "It Won't Go The Distance"

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    upinurgirlsguts
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    #211
    Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
    I never talked about the 3 year layoff...got me mixed up with someone else.

    But KO'ing mayorga? COME ON MAN fatass Vargas almost did that. Everyone knows that layoffs are a sure detriment. Not necessarily a deciding factor, but A factor nonetheless.

    and there is more evidence to suggest that Oscar was more diminished for his fight vs floyd than Tszyu vs Hatton.

    #1 Tszyu had stronger showings in prior fights

    #2 Oscar had the longer layoff

    #3 Oscar gassed in the face of....well, nothing.

    #4 Tszyu held his own against an unbelievable onslaught.

    So therefore, Hatton deserves more credit for his win in roughing up a legend than Floyd does for potshotting his way to an SD. Period.

    Overall, floyd has the better resume and will likely beat Hatton, so in the long run it wont matter, but lets let some logic into the conversation, shall we?

    cotdayum this post is ether. the type of **** that makes your soul burn slow.

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    • pesticid
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      #212
      Originally posted by warp1432
      Well I wouldn't call it equal competition.

      Oscar could adjust much more easily to things then Tszyu could and Tszyu still had those injury effects on him.

      However, I think Tszyu was just taylor made of Hatton. Rough Tough Fighter with a ****load of fans backing him all in one loud arena gives him a huge advantage.

      However what Floyd did was still impressive. He beat a fighter a lot bigger then him, had the smaller ring to work with, Oscar was coming off a huge win, Oscar had the crowd backing him too, and his was an eliete also.

      So to be honest, I think it's about 50/50 on which is the bigger in.
      I respect your posts,

      But even before this fight took place I though Oscar wanted to use the weight class (154) to bully Floyd and that's not his style. He couldn't even cut the ring off for Christ sake. Oscar is not a good stalker/pressure fighter. And that stage of his career he couldn;t outbox Floyd. That was my pick way before the fight actually took place, a very close win for Floyd. I've been wrong as well but that one was easy to predict. I didn't even want to go to see it but my buddies who are not even boxing fanatics drggedme out of my house.

      PS: Nobody is saying that Floyd isn't great or impressive.

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      • Bambicolors
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        #213
        I really think Floyd is gonna Ko Hatton.

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        • Jim Jeffries
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          #214
          Nobody picked Ricky Hatton to beat #3 p4p in the world Kostya Tszyu. Therefore it was a HUGE win for him.

          Oscar had lost 2 of his last 4, and lost 4 of his last 11. He had ONE fight in the previous 2 1/2 years. Before the unbelievable HYPE surrounding that fight to sell PPV, Floyd was the favorite, he was EXPECTED to win, therefore not a HUGE win for him.

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          • frankpaganini
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            #215
            Floyd Mayweather is NOT going to stop ricky hatton.

            At 147 pounds floyd just doesnt have the type of power to knockout a fighter like ricky hatton.

            Hatton's chin isnt made of steel but its not paper thin either.

            Floyd also doesnt punch enough (on average) in a round to really start to switch the pace and put ricky hatton in any serious danger (35 or so punches a round isnt going to beat ricky hatton up). this is at 147...

            when floyd fought Diego Corrales and Arturo gatti he didnt beat them with power...it was volume and consistancy...

            we didnt see that from mayweather with de la hoya (infact i think de la hoya out landed him roughly by 100 punches) or with a few other recent opponents.

            This whole arguement is crazy anyway because mayweather (if he's in his right mind) isnt going to brawl a ricky hatton or a miguel cotto...if he did he would be nuts.

            Ricky hatton on the other hand has a better chance of breaking down floyd's defense and knocking HIM out than floyd does of out hustling and out powering hatton to a knockout.

            plain and simple.

            and even that is highly unlikely...

            this is going to be a 12 round decision (SD or MD) for either fighter...you wont see a knockout or even a unanimous decision (in all likelyhood).

            lets just be honest with ourselves...

            this is all propaganda to sell tickets (primarily to the casual fan who isnt as educated about some of todays fighters) who will get tricked into buying a ppv with the main intention of seeing a brawl.

            Floyd said he was going to knockout de la hoya and it was going to be a "massacre" and what happened? floyd didnt really challenge oscar in a brawling sense (at any point of the fight) and he skated by barely with a split decision.

            Floyd and company always say, "floyd's going to do this, floyd's going to do that" but in reality we know floyd wont do nearly any of it."

            Will ricky hatton bring the fight and do his best to attempt to MAKE IT A BRAWL? yes he will...

            i dont doubt it. infact i'd be surprised if he decided to box mayweather.

            he wont...he's going to come in there and attempt to out hustle him and **** shots whether they land or not and get way ahead on punch output to win rounds.

            floyd is always doing he's pad wanking (hitting the pads really fast and makes him look so good) but to a fan/boxer we all know its just him attempting to show off and on top of it there is little power for him at 147 AND he doesnt do it in fights...35 punches a round...thats not using his talent to its full potential.

            but without getting any further off track lets just be honest...a 12 round decision is going to more than likely be the outcome to the fight.

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            • frankpaganini
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              #216
              Originally posted by Mochiteco
              I really think Floyd is gonna Ko Hatton.
              what would make you think that? honestly?

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              • warp1432
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                #217
                Originally posted by pesticid
                I respect your posts,

                But even before this fight took place I though Oscar wanted to use the weight class (154) to bully Floyd and that's not his style. He couldn't even cut the ring off for Christ sake. Oscar is not a good stalker/pressure fighter. And that stage of his career he couldn;t outbox Floyd. That was my pick way before the fight actually took place, a very close win for Floyd. I've been wrong as well but that one was easy to predict. I didn't even want to go to see it but my buddies who are not even boxing fanatics drggedme out of my house.

                PS: Nobody is saying that Floyd isn't great or impressive.
                Question: You said that Floyd was a close fight, but eariler said he had lost 2? Castillo...and? Though he's stil undefeated (officially and in my eyes) anyway so it doesn't matter.

                People also tend to forget that his 2 out of 4 loses were close ass fights too. People thought he won against Mosley and people had him winning against Hopkins (Though I had it 5-3 for Hopkins...).

                Not to mention Oscar was fighting above his natural weight limit for his Hopkins bout that he lost (well and strum but he got the decision on that). That and his Knockout win of Mayorga was huge.

                So yeah, I see it 50/50. You guys bring up some good points about the underdog stuff.

                Though denying that not beating Oscar isn't a huge win is pretty crazy, unless you REALLY hate floyd...

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                • DiegoFuego
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                  #218
                  if you hit the guy enough, a humane corner will stop it eventually

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                  • RodBarker
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by gavinz1970
                    Nobody picked Ricky Hatton to beat #3 p4p in the world Kostya Tszyu. Therefore it was a HUGE win for him.
                    Lots of people picked Hatton , one was Manny Stewart , a lot of people new Kostya was at the far end of his career and an upset was possible , but you guys only see somethings in red and completely miss anything else , the hype didnt go on to much about him being 36 yrs old ,, Ive always said it was a great win , but he only faced 80-90% of prime KT , but the win is being touted like it was prime KT ,, it wasnt and Ricky didnt give him 14 lbs either ,, Oscar and KT were at about the same stage of faded when they fought Floyd and Ricky , this a totally different fight and it favors Floyd .

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                    • BmoreBrawler
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by RodBarker
                      Lots of people picked Hatton , one was Manny Stewart , a lot of people new Kostya was at the far end of his career and an upset was possible , but you guys only see somethings in red and completely miss anything else , the hype didnt go on to much about him being 36 yrs old ,, Ive always said it was a great win , but he only faced 80-90% of prime KT , but the win is being touted like it was prime KT ,, it wasnt and Ricky didnt give him 14 lbs either ,, Oscar and KT were at about the same stage of faded when they fought Floyd and Ricky , this a totally different fight and it favors Floyd .
                      we agree 100% for once

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