Comparing Floyd vs The All Time Greats.

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  • tredh
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    #41
    Originally posted by 2501
    AGAIN with this ****ing reply guy? let me put it in terms you'll understand.

    If there are no "All Time Fighters" to fight in your era, then you fight the best available and CLEARLY, Floyd hasnt done that yet. It doesnt matter if OTHERS have been ducking him, he should atleast make an effort to fight them or call them out. If you want to be considered the GOAT, then money is secondary, quality of opposition is PRIORITY but we have seen the motive of Money Mayweather, "If it don't make dollas, it don't make sense". But then again, as he said in the second installment of 24/7 with Hatton, "Why do I still fight? Well, at first, I thought it was for the money, but I already have enough of that, Its for the LOVE of the sport." Well WHICH ONE ****ING IS IT!

    I thank god (if he exist) that I've been able to witness someone at the top of their game in action. Floyd at times is kind of like Neo in the Matrix or Tom Cruise in this sequence here below from The Last Samurai..



    For his ability, I have him #1 on my p4p list, this HAS been against limited opposition whether you want to admit it to yourself or not. Floyd still has alot to prove.
    There you go jumping in question to another persons debate not knowing what the **** you talking about. My comment of PBF not facing an all-time great has nothing to do with him facing the best competition if there is not a all-time great to fight. Since it was not about him facing the best of the rest I did not address it. You have showed me nothing new and nothing that hasn't been said before.

    I agree he should fight the best of the rest but dude commented about PBF not fighting an all-time great so that is what I commented on nothing more nothing less.

    Ask me my point of view on PBF fighting the best of rest before you ASSume anything about me or my understanding of something.
    Last edited by tredh; 11-26-2007, 03:08 PM.

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    • deevel79
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      #42
      Originally posted by EeZz
      dont discredit him based on his opponents; PBF is fighting what today have to offer. Its not his fault he wasnt born in the same time with SRL, Hearns, Hagler etc.
      So u admit that the past ATG's of the faced better comp then. This is exactly why people bug out when Roger says that Floyd is better than the likes of SRR, Ali, SRL, Duran, etc. How can he say that Floyd is better, when Floyd has never even faced and beat the type of caliber fighters that these guys have faced?

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      • El Dominicano
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        #43
        Originally posted by Bobby Pazuzu
        Anyone with a brain shouldnt have to read all that to know Floyd has some way to go before he is comparable to Ali, SRR, SRL, and the other ATG'S.
        Sorry to say Leonard isn't the best out of the Fab 4. Duran beat leonard 1st fight then 2nd fight SRL acted like an ass. Hearns beat SRL 2nd fight and Hagler was old and some even believe hagler won. When u talk about the Fab 4 NO ONE IS BETTER. They are all great legends. But lets talk about what PBF would have to do in order to be put in SRR and Ali's level but keep in mind he is even far from accomplishing what the Fab 4 did. My opinion

        PBF would have to beat Hatton, Cotto, Paul Williams and...a MW? Maybe eh...

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        • deevel79
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          #44
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          Sorry to say Leonard isn't the best out of the Fab 4. Duran beat leonard 1st fight then 2nd fight SRL acted like an ass. Hearns beat SRL 2nd fight and Hagler was old and some even believe hagler won. When u talk about the Fab 4 NO ONE IS BETTER. They are all great legends. But lets talk about what PBF would have to do in order to be put in SRR and Ali's level but keep in mind he is even far from accomplishing what the Fab 4 did. My opinion

          PBF would have to beat Hatton, Cotto, Paul Williams and...a MW? Maybe eh...
          Although i respect SRL, i think his win over Duran is a bit overrated. Duran had a very short time to get back into shape for the rematch, and come fight night, SRL decided to clown around instead of fight.

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          • EeZz
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            #45
            Originally posted by deevel79
            So u admit that the past ATG's of the faced better comp then. This is exactly why people bug out when Roger says that Floyd is better than the likes of SRR, Ali, SRL, Duran, etc. How can he say that Floyd is better, when Floyd has never even faced and beat the type of caliber fighters that these guys have faced?
            PBF is HOF but ATG? not yet though; but you cant discredit PBF based on his opponents and comparing it to SRL's. Because theres no Hearns, Duran and Hagler of today. He fought who's available to him, dont worry PBF haters he will fight Cotto and Williams.

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            • deevel79
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              #46
              [QUOTE=EeZz;2876638]PBF is HOF but ATG? not yet though; but you cant discredit PBF based on his opponents and comparing it to SRL's. Because theres no Hearns, Duran and Hagler of today. He fought who's available to him, dont worry PBF haters he will fight Cotto and Williams.[/QUOTE]

              If he does, that'll be great, but he has already said otherwise. He contradicts himself so much, you dont know what to believe anymore.

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              • EeZz
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                #47
                [QUOTE=deevel79;2876646]
                Originally posted by EeZz
                PBF is HOF but ATG? not yet though; but you cant discredit PBF based on his opponents and comparing it to SRL's. Because theres no Hearns, Duran and Hagler of today. He fought who's available to him, dont worry PBF haters he will fight Cotto and Williams.[/QUOTE]

                If he does, that'll be great, but he has already said otherwise. He contradicts himself so much, you dont know what to believe anymore.
                that's boxing drama for you, it always make fans want for more.

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                • Sweet Pete
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ANTONIM
                  Yeah I Saw This Too.floyd Has Top Five All Time Talent,average Resume.thats What Alot Of His Fans Don't Get.they Put Him On A Peddlestool For His Talent,but Fact Is Ali,leonard And Robinson All Fought All Time Greats And Beat Them,floyd Has Not.
                  Not sure about top 5 all time talent, but definitely among the best. He has much better than an average resume as well, just not when compared with the top ATG's.

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                  • Sweet Pete
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by deevel79
                    Although i respect SRL, i think his win over Duran is a bit overrated. Duran had a very short time to get back into shape for the rematch, and come fight night, SRL decided to clown around instead of fight.
                    I could make just as many excuses about Leonard's loss as you can Duran. When Duran got into Leonard's head, Leonard fought Duran's game and did well, despite losing. When Leonard got into Duran's head, Duran quit. I'd say Leonard did better.

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                    • AntonTheMeh
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Sweet Pete
                      Not sure about top 5 all time talent, but definitely among the best. He has much better than an average resume as well, just not when compared with the top ATG's.
                      TOP 5 TALENT
                      JONES
                      ROBINSON
                      ALI
                      LEONARD
                      MAYWEATHER

                      WHAT WOULD YOUR TOP FIVE MOST TALENTED FIGHTERS LOOK LIKE?

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