Comparing Floyd vs The All Time Greats.

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  • SkillspayBills
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    #21
    Originally posted by ANTONIM
    SKILS,LISTEN,WOULD FRAZIER BE AN ALL TIME GREAT WITH OUT ALI?NO.DO YOU GET MY POINT WHEN I REFERENCED HIM AS THE FRAZIER TO FLOYD'S ALI?IT'S LEGENDARY FIGHTS THAT MAKE LEGENDARY FIGHTERS,THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A LEGENDARY FIGHT.UNDERSTAND?
    I never said you were wrong I said Tszyu wasn't an ATG. He could have been the one to be Floyd's Frazier but there is still time to find that one person. Hatton may be that man.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Rane-Ex54
      Leonard Shouldn't even be mentioned in the top 5 all time.....and LOL to him scoring a 9 for power. hahaha
      LEONARD'S RESUME
      BEAT DURAN-THE GREATEST LIGHTWEIGHT EVER-IMO
      THE THIRD GREATEST WELTER IN HEARNS-IMO
      AND THE GREATEST MIDDLEWEIGHT OF ALL TIME IN HAGLER-IMO
      AND A GREAT DEFENSIVE FIGHTER IN BENITEZ.

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      • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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        #23
        Originally posted by ANTONIM
        LEONARD'S RESUME
        BEAT DURAN-THE GREATEST LIGHTWEIGHT EVER-IMO
        THE THIRD GREATEST WELTER IN HEARNS-IMO
        AND THE GREATEST MIDDLEWEIGHT OF ALL TIME IN HAGLER-IMO
        AND A GREAT DEFENSIVE FIGHTER IN BENITEZ.
        And he beat Hagler, after a 5 year layoff which was incredible.

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          #24
          Originally posted by skilspaydabills
          I never said you were wrong I said Tszyu wasn't an ATG. He could have been the one to be Floyd's Frazier but there is still time to find that one person. Hatton may be that man.
          OK,COOL,MY POINT IS HE DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH ALI LEONARD AND ROBINSON RESUME WISE.TALENT WISE YES.ALONG WITH THEM AND ROY JONES,AND MAYBE CAMACHO

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            #25
            Look at Ali's resume. It's just amazing when looking at all of the hall of fame fighters he fought and beat. I don't think any fighter will come close to this kind of resume for a long time.

            Date Opponent Location Result
            1981-12-11 Trevor Berbick Nassau, Ba*****, The L UD 10
            1980-10-02 Larry Holmes Las Vegas, USA L RTD 10
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            1978-09-15 Leon Spinks New Orleans, USA W UD 15
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1978-02-15 Leon Spinks Las Vegas, USA L SD 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1977-09-29 Earnie Shavers New York City, USA W UD 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1977-05-16 Alfredo Evangelista Landover, USA W UD 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1976-09-28 Ken Norton Bronx, USA W UD 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1976-05-24 Richard Dunn Munich, Germany W TKO 5
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1976-04-30 Jimmy Young Landover, USA W UD 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1976-02-20 Jean-Pierre Coopman Hato Rey, Puerto Rico W KO 5
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1975-10-01 Joe Frazier Quezon City, Philippines W RTD 14
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1975-06-30 Joe Bugner Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia W UD 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1975-05-16 Ron Lyle Las Vegas, USA W TKO 11
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1975-03-24 Chuck Wepner Richfield, USA W TKO 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1974-10-30 George Foreman Kinshasa, Congo, Democrac W KO 8
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1974-01-28 Joe Frazier New York City, USA W UD 12
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1973-10-20 Rudi Lubbers Jakarta, Indonesia W UD 12
            1973-09-10 Ken Norton Inglewood, USA W SD 12
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1973-03-31 Ken Norton San Diego, USA L SD 12
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1973-02-14 Joe Bugner Las Vegas, USA W UD 12
            1972-11-21 Bob Foster Stateline, USA W KO 8
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1972-09-20 Floyd Patterson New York City, USA W TKO 7
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1972-07-19 Alvin Lewis Dublin, Ireland W TKO 11
            1972-06-27 Jerry Quarry Las Vegas, USA W TKO 7
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1972-05-01 George Chuvalo Vancouver, Canada W UD 12
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1972-04-01 Mac Foster Tokyo, Japan W UD 15
            1971-12-26 Jurgen Blin Zurich, Switzerland W KO 7
            1971-11-17 Buster Mathis Houston, USA W UD 12
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1971-07-26 Jimmy Ellis Houston, USA W TKO 12
            Vacant NABF Heavyweight Title
            1971-03-08 Joe Frazier New York City, USA L UD 15
            WBC Heavyweight Title
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1970-12-07 Oscar Natalio Bonavena New York City, USA W TKO 15
            NABF Heavyweight Title
            1970-10-26 Jerry Quarry Atlanta, USA W TKO 3
            1967-03-22 Zora Folley New York City, USA W KO 7
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1967-02-06 Ernie Terrell Houston, USA W UD 15
            WBA Heavyweight Title
            1966-11-14 Cleveland Williams Houston, USA W TKO 3
            1966-09-10 Karl Mildenberger Frankfurt, Germany W TKO 12
            1966-08-06 Brian London Kensington, United Kingdo W KO 3
            1966-05-21 Henry Cooper Highbury, United Kingdom W TKO 6
            1966-03-29 George Chuvalo Toronto, Canada W UD 15
            1965-11-22 Floyd Patterson Las Vegas, USA W TKO 12
            1965-05-25 Sonny Liston Lewiston, USA W KO 1
            1964-02-25 Sonny Liston Miami Beach, USA W RTD 7
            1963-06-18 Henry Cooper Wembley, United Kingdom W TKO 5
            1963-03-13 Doug Jones New York City, USA W UD 10
            1963-01-24 Charley Powell Pittsburgh, USA W KO 3
            1962-11-15 Archie Moore Los Angeles, USA W TKO 4
            1962-07-20 Alejandro Lavorante Los Angeles, USA W KO 5
            1962-05-19 Billy Daniels New York City, USA W TKO 7
            1962-04-23 George Logan Los Angeles, USA W TKO 4
            1962-03-28 Don Warner Miami Beach, USA W TKO 4
            1962-02-10 Sonny Banks New York City, USA W TKO 4
            1961-11-29 Willi Besmanoff Louisville, USA W TKO 7
            1961-10-07 Alex Miteff Louisville, USA W TKO 6
            1961-07-22 Alonzo Johnson Louisville, USA W UD 10
            1961-06-26 Duke Sabedong Las Vegas, USA W UD 10
            1961-04-19 LaMar Clark Louisville, USA W KO 2
            1961-02-21 Donnie Fleeman Miami Beach, USA W TKO 7
            1961-02-07 Jimmy Robinson Miami Beach, USA W KO 1
            1961-01-17 Tony Esperti Miami Beach, USA W TKO 3
            1960-12-27 Herb Siler Miami Beach, USA W KO 4
            1960-10-29 Tunney Hunsaker Louisville, USA W UD 6

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            • AntonTheMeh
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              #26
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              And he beat Hagler, after a 5 year layoff which was incredible.
              YOU'VE GOT SOME WHO CRY ROBBERY,BUT WHO CARES,BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE LEONARD.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ANTONIM
                LEONARD'S RESUME
                BEAT DURAN-THE GREATEST LIGHTWEIGHT EVER-IMO
                THE THIRD GREATEST WELTER IN HEARNS-IMO
                AND THE GREATEST MIDDLEWEIGHT OF ALL TIME IN HAGLER-IMO
                AND A GREAT DEFENSIVE FIGHTER IN BENITEZ.
                He also Lost to Duran, Hagler fight was highly controversial (still to this day), Hearns was exciting but is a bit overrated. Barkley Beat him twice!! Plus Leonard didn't fight long enough to be up on this list, how many wins does he have? Plus do I have to mention hector Camoacho? Don't make me do it, haha. Leonard is a pop boxing superstar not a top 5 all time great!!

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                • SkillspayBills
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  If someone really thinks Mayweather has a comparible resume to Ali, Leonard or Robinson, they have "0" clue about boxing or know nothing about boxing history. Mayweather should not even be compared to any all-time great fighter until he retires. People made the same mistake with Roy Jones after he won a heavyweight title. Look at Jones now.
                  Jones being defetead DOES NOT deter his status of an all time great. Even SRR was defeated when he was out of his prime.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Rane-Ex54
                    He also Lost to Duran, Hagler fight was highly controversial (still to this day), Hearns was exciting but is a bit overrated. Barkley Beat him twice!! Plus Leonard didn't fight long enough to be up on this list, how many wins does he have? Plus do I have to mention hector Camoacho? Don't make me do it, haha. Leonard is a pop boxing superstar not a top 5 all time great!!
                    yeah he lost to duran then avenged the defeat
                    the hagler fight's controversy is overrated
                    barkley didn't beat hearns at welter hearns's best weight
                    the camacho fight means squat both over the hill shot and drugged,leonard more so then camacho.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ANTONIM
                      yeah he lost to duran then avenged the defeat
                      the hagler fight's controversy is overrated
                      barkley didn't beat hearns at welter hearns's best weight
                      the camacho fight means squat both over the hill shot and drugged,leonard more so then camacho.
                      Duran quit verse leonard the second time because SRL wasn't fighting he was acting like a doosh, yes its a win, but are you satisfied with that being one of his biggest wins?? Come on!! I have Duran Much higher then SRL in my All time great list... The media has clearly mussshed your brain if u think SRL is top 5 all time.

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