Floyd Mayweather..

[moofo]

Good point. I would agree with you that Mayweather hasn't fought the very best from 140 on up. The truth ain't bitter at all to me. Mayweather is just another boxer that I like to follow. No more, no less. To some on here, it's like their lifes work to hate on the man though. Which is pretty goddamn pathetic if you ask me. DO YOU GET THAT?

I don't hate him though.
I never post anything derogatory about him or say he is this or that do I?
I am just conveying my own opinion with regards to quite a few people who would have us believe Floyd is the second coming of Christ , which I don't believe.
What I am looking for is someone to prove me wrong or at least acknowledge that some of what I see is not all that ******.
I tell it how I see itnothing more nothing less.
With no intention of disrespecting or hating anybody.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Moofo,

You don't want a two-way discussion, you want to force your opinion down people's throats. Any dissent is met with an angry response from you.

Genaro hernandez - all timer @ SFW...stopped him
Diego Corrales - Undefeated, #5 P4P...stopped him
Angel manfredy - perennial top 5 sfw....stopped him
Jesus chavez - champion @ LW...stopped him
Jose Luis Castillo - top 20 p4p guy... beat him twice
Zab judah - former undisputed WW champ
Carlos baldomir - linear WW champ
Oscar Delahoya - Hall of Famer

and then the "good" fighters:

demarcus corley
famosito
goyo vargas
arturo gatti
etc
etc

[Sweet Pea 50]

good post i wonder what excuse will floyd nuthuggers use when he ducks cotto

Now that Cotto has beaten Moseley, he has the star power to draw the kind of money Mayweather looks for in a fight. Mayweather Cotto WILL happen in 08.

[moofo]

Moofo,

You don't want a two-way discussion, you want to force your opinion down people's throats. Any dissent is met with an angry response from you.

Genaro hernandez - all timer @ SFW...stopped him
Diego Corrales - Undefeated, #5 P4P...stopped him
Angel manfredy - perennial top 5 sfw....stopped him
Jesus chavez - champion @ LW...stopped him
Jose Luis Castillo - top 20 p4p guy... beat him twice
Zab judah - former undisputed WW champ
Carlos baldomir - linear WW champ
Oscar Delahoya - Hall of Famer

and then the "good" fighters:

demarcus corley
famosito
goyo vargas
arturo gatti
etc
etc

And still you have not answered the question.
You are quoting wins from below 140 for starters.
And secondly you have yet to name a fighter on the top of his game in his prime at the weights of 140 , 147 or 154.

If you can name one then I will happiluy change my viewpoint.

[Sweet Pea 50]

I don't hate him though.
I never post anything derogatory about him or say he is this or that do I?
I am just conveying my own opinion with regards to quite a few people who would have us believe Floyd is the second coming of Christ , which I don't believe.
What I am looking for is someone to prove me wrong or at least acknowledge that some of what I see is not all that ******.
I tell it how I see itnothing more nothing less.
With no intention of disrespecting or hating anybody.

I see your point about Mayweathers opposition from 140 on up not being the cream of the crop. But your intentions are going to be questioned when you write a frickin dissertation dissecting a certain fighters resume. And you expect not be called out on it? Whatever.
A fighter at Mayweathers, Hattons, **** any world class level have better think there the best of all time when entering that ring. You need that kind of confidence to be great. Mayweathers antics outside of the ring be damned, do you think ANY great fighter walks around thinking, "I'm all right, I'm going to try my best, I hope I win?" NO. They have to walk around thinking "i'm the baddest mutha ****a out there, nobody can beat me, I'm the best" It's just Mayweather actually says what a lot of fighters don't. But trust me, Hatton is thinking the same exact thing when entering the ring. He just chooses not to run his mouth. Which I respect alot.
I like Hattons persona. He probably pretty cool to have a couple of brews with and shoot some snooker. But that aside, Mayweather is going to win Dec 8th.
Just my take on the fights outcome.

[Vladimir303]

Eats , ****s , Breathes therefore he is Human.
Human and not Super-human or indestructible.
Yes he has great Boxing ability.
BUT he isn't undefeatable.
So far he has carefully chosen his path from the 140 division upwards and until December the 8th will not have fought a renowned undisputed , Undefeated Champion in their prime.
So far his list of opponents with belts on his adventures up the Weights have been well past their best or clearly NOT the BEST in each respective division.
At 140 he never fought Kostya and then Hatton(When he took the crown) who were the REAL champions at that weight limit.
At Welterweight he was lucky enough to have a very Shaky fighter called Zab Judah who firstly gave his titles away to a Journeyman and has since been beaten much more convincingly by Miguel Cotto.
Floyd beat the tired Gatti at 140 who has since lost to another unremarkable fighter in Alfonso Gomez from a reality TV programme who would , without that show , never have been heard of.
Baldomir suddenly was Champ and also won against a shot Gatti.
Any other Welterweight Champ in History would have dealt with Baldomir easily , hell there are Fighters in the division who would have beaten him easily enough, he was just fortunate Zab held the belts.
The right place at the right time.
Then we have the fight with Oscar at 154 for the WBC belt.
Oscar was another man who started his career at the lower weights.
And that was where he himself was most successfull.
Fortunately for Floyd Oscar was and is at the tail end of his career and at the age of 34 was a shadow of his former self which was proved when he was gassed after 6 rounds.
Perhaps Oscars inactivity was a factor as well bearing in mind he had fought only 3 times in the previous 3 years?
Would Floyd have been so succesful against a man like Winky Wright who was much more a natural light middleweight?


Yes Floyd has done well on his rise through the weights , but as yet , WHO has he fought that has tested him?
WHO has he fought that was the BEST in the division at the TOP of their game?
Saying this , Zab gave him plenty for 6 rounds before losing focus.
Some people dispute the decision over a tired Old Oscar.
Please don't give me the nonsense of him lacking in stature as the only man he met at 154 was himself a former Super-Featherweight champ.

In my opinion those who write off Hatton's chances with contempt must be pretty ignorant of these facts.

I am not a Mayweather Hater , in fact I certainly believe he his very gifted.
But I cannot stomach the nonsense I hear that he is the greatest of all time and he is a genuine accomplished champ at 140 , 147 & 154.
There are many unanswered questions with Floyd.....
The First of which will be answered on December the 8th.
Although he is already making his opponent fight him outside his natural weight category.

I await the hate.

You're a ratard. You don't seriously expect somebody to read this longwinded nonsense. Quite a speech you've given here cupcake. The teacher give you a D - for your Paper.

[moofo]

I see your point about Mayweathers opposition from 140 on up not being the cream of the crop. But your intentions are going to be questioned when you write a frickin dissertation dissecting a certain fighters resume. And you expect not be called out on it? Whatever.
A fighter at Mayweathers, Hattons, **** any world class level have better think there the best of all time when entering that ring. You need that kind of confidence to be great. Mayweathers antics outside of the ring be damned, do you think ANY great fighter walks around thinking, "I'm all right, I'm going to try my best, I hope I win?" NO. They have to walk around thinking "i'm the baddest mutha ****a out there, nobody can beat me, I'm the best" It's just Mayweather actually says what a lot of fighters don't. But trust me, Hatton is thinking the same exact thing when entering the ring. He just chooses not to run his mouth. Which I respect alot.
I like Hattons persona. He probably pretty cool to have a couple of brews with and shoot some snooker. But that aside, Mayweather is going to win Dec 8th.
Just my take on the fights outcome.

I agree with what you say.
But some people need to take the blinkers off and look at the real picture.
Yes Floyd is a good fighter with good skills.
I don't doubt his achievements at below 140 he has my utmost respect there.
From 140 upwards I still think he has done well bearing in mind he has come up in weight and yes he has beaten some good fighters albeit most were not of the calibre they once were or ever could be.
I am not knocking who he has fought what my gripe is the proclomation that he is the best at 140 147 &154 without contending the best in those divisions.
I just wish more Floyd fans could see this rather than accepting the hype and then slagging those of us off who simply can't believe that he is the greatest of his own time let alone all time.
As for the outcome of the fight....I think the first couple of rounds will answer the question.
If Mayweather can't hurt Ricky and keep him off him then Hatton may well stop him.
However if Mayweather can handle Hattons power then I see his speed winning him the fight in a close decision for Floyd.
I don't see how Hatton can take it on points unless he somehow outboxes Floyd which I don't think is possible but hey...this is Boxing.

[moofo]

You're a ratard. You don't seriously expect somebody to read this longwinded nonsense. Quite a speech you've given here cupcake. The teacher give you a D - for your Paper.

This is the kind of response I expect from a nuthugger.
Unlike people like Sweetpea who actually respond without your hate.
The reason you can't answer like an adult is because you are incapable and revert to childish slagging.

You just make yourself look like a ******.
And it is obvious my old chum Dios has pointed you this way from yours and his regular forum as you call it.

[Vladimir303]

You are doing it again....
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OTHER FIGHTER THAN FLOYD.
As for Hatton being Great...I've never stated that nor has he.
I regard him as a good fighter who has potential to be considered great IF he beats Floyd and perhaps a couple more out there.

All I want to know is WHO has FLoyd BEATEN of WORLD CLASS who was Undisputed Best in the 140 , 147 & 154 divisions to tally with his and his fans declaration that he is the Greatest.

No need to consider any other fighter just answer this based on Floyd.

He hasn't beaten anybody like that 140, 147 or 154 because there isn't anybody like that out there. FLoyd is the real champ at 147 because he defeated the BUM Baldomir for the real title.

At 140, Hatton didn't want any.

At 154, there was no real champion unless you consider Cory Spinks a better fighter then Delahoya.

Case Closed.

[Sweet Pea 50]

I agree with what you say.
But some people need to take the blinkers off and look at the real picture.
Yes Floyd is a good fighter with good skills.
I don't doubt his achievements at below 140 he has my utmost respect there.
From 140 upwards I still think he has done well bearing in mind he has come up in weight and yes he has beaten some good fighters albeit most were not of the calibre they once were or ever could be.
I am not knocking who he has fought what my gripe is the proclomation that he is the best at 140 147 &154 without contending the best in those divisions.
I just wish more Floyd fans could see this rather than accepting the hype and then slagging those of us off who simply can't believe that he is the greatest of his own time let alone all time.
As for the outcome of the fight....I think the first couple of rounds will answer the question.
If Mayweather can't hurt Ricky and keep him off him then Hatton may well stop him.
However if Mayweather can handle Hattons power then I see his speed winning him the fight in a close decision for Floyd.
I don't see how Hatton can take it on points unless he somehow outboxes Floyd which I don't think is possible but hey...this is Boxing.

Not stirring any **** up moo, but who do you think is the best fighter in the past 10 years? Just asking for your opinion.