Mayweather is NOT the top welterweight

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  • pbftxrs316
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    #51
    Originally posted by Facko
    Look...I cannot stand PBF. But, I feel as though floyd haters (like myself) need a better reason than to dispute his skills. It's not about whether or not hes great or the greatest or the best p4p right now....it's not about that and it never was. It has always been about his horrible attitude. Hatton's trainer said it himself...it's as if he wants to be Ali but just comes off like a total prick because he's too ****y. Do you PBF fans really believe people hate to see great champions...and that's why people hate him? There is more to being a great champion, and there is more to being a respected fighter and champion than just being fast and tricky. It's called respect...and you gotta give it to get it. In that aspect, I've yet to see PBF give any of his opponents respect. He disrespects everyone....there's a difference between being ****y and show boating and just being plain disrespectful. That being said...I'd really think this forum would be better off if we all kept the floyd talking to a minimal until after dec 8. After December 8th, then everyone can say their piece about the winner and loser for the week or so after that and then STFU.
    i'm glad to see you mention this but with all the hate of his ****y attitude, the pbf haters tend to bleed their hatred over into his legacy claiming he ducked this fighter and he ducked that fighter and he is a runner and yada yada yada. they seem to forget what boxing really is, and that it's not a one dimensional sport, and this is why the fans defend him like they do imo. saying he's ****y is one thing, but discredting how he fights and his legacy when i'm sure more than half of these morons haven't watched many of his fights is just plain retarted. with floyd disrespecting his opponents, it's his way of staying ahead of everybody else. think about it, i'm not saying he has to talk the way he does, but he's made no secrets about wanting to be better than every fighter in history, and his dominance in the professional sport of boxing breathes the way it does with his trash talking and claiming so and so is one dimensional and a c class fighter. it's what works for him, and he's not the only fighter whose talked trash, because roy jones talked ****, james toney talked ****, and they're regarded as heros to many people on here, because of their styles and skills that make their styles up, but pretty boy, who is more polished than both of them, and overall, a better fighter than them both imo is regarded as a ****y piece of ****? what the **** is that ****? i mean, there's nothing wrong with being respectful to your opponents, but it's competiton, floyd talks ****, yet, he trains like a madman, so he takes no opponent lightly at all, and he always gives them respect after the fight. they have to earn his respect witrh their fight game by fighting a tough fight against him. that's just how he is, and he's smart for being this way. not only is he making his name bigger, whether it's positive or negative, but he's putting pressure on himself to perform at a higher level seeing how people expect him to back his words up, or seeing how people want him to lose and get knocked the hell out. it makes him that more dangerous and work that much harder. it's a smart tactic for his legacy in the sport that bred him.

    he also gets into his opponent's head by doing this. he can win the fight at the press conference by intimidating his opponent or throwing them off of their game. yet, his opponent's outside issues are rarely showcased like floyd's are. his personal issues with his children's mothers are made known and his club issues, and when oscar is looked at like a ****ing king and all american good guy, when oscar is dressing up like a woman or cheating on his wife with women in america it makes me mad. this gets me ticked off, but with all of this on the table, it only makes floyd perform better in the face of this adversity and no matter who's booing the **** out of him or cheering for him, which many don't cheer for him, but oh well, he still performs like a true champion in that ring. he still domiantes opponents who are in their hometown or very popular because of their looks like de la hoya. it doesn't matter, floyd is smart enough to know that popularity doesn't win fights, unless the judges are corrupt of course, but usually popularity don't win you fights. floyd is fighting his haters, critics, and more when he's in that win, and he's also proving to himself that he can be the best at doing this, which is certainly is, so this is why he is not only the top welterweight in boxing, but th ebest fighter in any weight class in boxing, so deal with it people.
    Last edited by pbftxrs316; 11-22-2007, 09:04 PM.

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    • old68
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      #52
      Originally posted by eric maldonado
      yea baldomir was considered the champ floyd beat him and he became the champ cotto didn't have a belt hatton got beat up by collazo so he didn't want to b a welterweight anymore so that belt was up for grabs and margarito had the other belt
      Like I said. Cotto had a WW belt one month after the Baldo fight. And had LWelter belts before that.

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      • ElGranLuchador
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        #53
        Originally posted by eric maldonado
        and yes if you beat the champ you are the champ
        yes mayweather is the champ but hes not the best welterweight
        he cant be with only 3 victories specially against so weak opposition

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        • deliveryman
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          #54
          Originally posted by elgranluchadore
          i dont think hatton is the most overrated fighter in the last 10 years just quoting what mayweather said
          and margarito fought worthy challengers like clottey and cintron
          he also defended against unknown but with good records opponents like sebastian andres lujan and the greek kwyleos i think
          also none of his opponents were coming of losses unlike mayweather
          Rofl, are you ****ing ******ed?

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          • deevel79
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            #55
            Originally posted by elgranluchadore
            yes mayweather is the champ but hes not the best welterweight
            he cant be with only 3 victories specially against so weak opposition

            Exactly! Champion?..... Yes Proven best?.....No
            Last edited by deevel79; 11-22-2007, 09:45 PM.

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            • Jim Jeffries
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              #56
              Originally posted by elgranluchadore
              yes mayweather is the champ but hes not the best welterweight
              he cant be with only 3 victories specially against so weak opposition
              I agree, I mean Mayweather could move to middleweight and they would rank him #1 contender, but guys like Pavlik would knock him the #$%@ out.

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              • eric maldonado
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                #57
                then who's the best?

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                • ElGranLuchador
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by eric maldonado
                  then who's the best?
                  at welter cotto is currently the best i dont see any reason mayweather should be ahead of him except the whole "p4p" crap

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                  • deevel79
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by eric maldonado
                    then who's the best?

                    When the winner of Cintron/Williams faces the winner of a potential Floyd/Cotto bout.....Only then can we say who's the best 147lber. Thats the most accurate way that i see, we can determine who's the best WW.

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                    • ElGranLuchador
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by deevel79
                      When the winner of Cintron/Williams faces the winner of a potential Floyd/Cotto bout.....Only then can we say who's the best 147lber. Thats the most accurate way that i see, we can determine who's the best WW.
                      floyd cotto bout wont happen pbf already making lame exxcuses of cotto not being a "draw" even when he sold out msg and its a bigger draw than floyd himself mayweather is gonna face an old mosley while cotto is probably gonna fight margarito and then there wont be no doubt whos the best welter

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