Mayweather is NOT the top welterweight

[jai mari078]

Exposed time and time again?

You have Tszyu's fight, which yes was a massacare.

Then you have Cotto's fight, which wasn't really an "exposure" just a defeat, that happened before that.

You have Spinks, which he avenged that Loss in the second fight with a KO. So wasn't really exposed except for the Tszyu.

And atleast Judah lost to good boxers. I mean who the **** were the people Margarito lost to besides Williams?

You don't think there is a reason that Judah melts down and loses every major fight he is in? Judah mentally breaks down in every big fight he has ever been in and one win over a pilow punching running Spinks, doesn't make him elite or a good fighter. Him losing to Spinks is worse. Judah has always been overrated. He has the skills but doesn't have the mental mindset to put it all together. The Judah fight should have never happened especially coming off the Baldomir loss. Give it up with the Judah arguement.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Here's my problem with haters (actually, I have PLENTY of problems with haters..) But the one that most sticks out is this..

You don't like Mayweather? Why start ANOTHER ****ing thread about him? He's not number one? Don't tell me that... just point WHO IS.. Make a thread about that guy..

Don't hate on Mayweather, show love to someone else. Jesus.. Haters.. Die slow.

[jai mari078]

if floyd is not the best at 147 who is if floyd didn't beat the best than neither has williams cintron or cotto

I'm not saying Cotto is the best at 147 right now, we wont know until he gets the oppurtunity to fight Floyd, but he is the best next to Floyd. I will say this though, fighting and beating Shane is better than any win or name than Floyd has on his resume. There is no dis*****g that.

[THe TRiNiTY]

I'm not saying Cotto is the best at 147 right now, we wont know until he gets the oppurtunity to fight Floyd, but he is the best next to Floyd. I will say this though, fighting and beating Shane is better than any win or name than Floyd has on his resume. There is no dis*****g that.

Name for name, I agree, perhaps..... accomplishments as a whole.. I say that he has a legacy over Cotto.

[warp1432]

Cory Spinks is better then most of the guys Margartio has faced. Sure he is boring as ****, but he's a good outboxer and a lot better then the oppostiion (minus Cintron, Clotely, and Williams) Margarito has faced.

So he gets some credit for that.

Regradless if Judah had lost to Baldomir the fight before that or not, Judah was still one of the best fighters the welterweight divison had to offer. That and it was still a money fight, so it made sense for Floyd to take it.

Then he beat the man who beat the man, Baldomir.

So yes, Mayweather is the top welterweight and Judah is better then Margarito.

edit: Yeah beating Shane is impressive, but I don't think just that name puts it over Mayweather wins.

That and Resume wise:

Floyd's > Cotto's.

[old68]

WRONG, Baldomir had the WBC and lineal title. Zab was his original fight and unified champ before being upset by Baldo. Cotto wasn't a champion until AFTER the Baldomir fight, fool.

WRONG. Cotto was at LWelter, and was a champ. Neither of them was champ at 147 until the Baldobum fight on 2006-11-04. Cotto fought Quintana on 2006-12-02. Mayweather was champ at 147.... ::gasp:: a whole month before Cotto.

PS ahh yes I forget the Zab Judah fight on 2006-04-08

[Jim Jeffries]

so if paquiao beats david diaz and joel casamayor who are the champion and former champion does that make him the top lighweight? no it doesnt cuz there are much better fighters in the division
just like there were much better fighters in the division than judah and baldomir

baldomir beat clottey and alot of people thought clottey beat margarito.if paquio was to beat juan diaz he would be considered th champ in my eyes

You just confirmed the exact point he was trying to make.

[Jim Jeffries]

And atleast Judah lost to good boxers. I mean who the **** were the people Margarito lost to besides Williams?

3 meaningless decision losses more than 11 years ago which should have been amatuer fights. One loss to a 28-2 Daniel Santos when fight was stopped after a headbutt when he was ahead on one scorecard and behind a point on another.

[eric maldonado]

You just confirmed the exact point he was trying to make.

yea baldomir was considered the champ floyd beat him and he became the champ cotto didn't have a belt hatton got beat up by collazo so he didn't want to b a welterweight anymore so that belt was up for grabs and margarito had the other belt

[eric maldonado]

and yes if you beat the champ you are the champ