Mayweather is NOT the top welterweight

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  • ElGranLuchador
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    #91
    Originally posted by warp1432
    Most impressive for beating cans???

    Hell man, even RJJ's opponnet's were more famous then the cans Margarito was fighting.
    at least marg opponents werent coming off loses most mayweather opponents are coming from the most devastating loses in their career (de la hoya judah) corley bruseless and gatti now thats the definition of cans and even them were coming of loses
    marg fought worthy contenders most unknown but they were in a roll when he faced them

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    • warp1432
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      #92
      De La Hoya coming off an embarrasing loss? Did you not see him beat the **** out of Mayorga?

      Gatti also had a win of Leja too.

      And worthy contenders my ass. Even if they were, Floyd fought champions/ex champions who were known as solid fighters (cept Brussles). You can't be telling me that Margarito's resume is a lot better then Floyd's? That's just absurd even for you.
      Last edited by warp1432; 11-23-2007, 12:16 AM.

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      • ElGranLuchador
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        #93
        Originally posted by warp1432
        De La Hoya coming off an embarrasing loss? Did you not see him beat the **** out of Mayorga?

        Gatti also had a win of Leja too.

        And worthy contenders my ass. Even if they were, Floyd fought champions/ex champions who were known as solid fighters (cept Brussles). You can't be telling me that Margarito's resume is a lot better then Floyd's? That's just absurd even for you.
        mayorga was just a tune up de la hoya came from the most embarrasing lost of his career when he was koed by the first time by hopkins
        and gatti the bum with the ten loses who defeated a decadent jesse james lejia in his last match its anything but worthy
        floyd fought decadents former champions all coming from loses in their last couple fights
        and im not saying margarito is better than mayweather thats not what im talking about im saying margarito resume and career in welter is more impressive than pbf

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          #94
          anyway im off to bed nice talking to u boxing is a subjective sport everyone is entitled to their oppinions

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          • Facko
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            #95
            Originally posted by pbftxrs316
            i'm glad to see you mention this but with all the hate of his ****y attitude, the pbf haters tend to bleed their hatred over into his legacy claiming he ducked this fighter and he ducked that fighter and he is a runner and yada yada yada. they seem to forget what boxing really is, and that it's not a one dimensional sport, and this is why the fans defend him like they do imo. saying he's ****y is one thing, but discredting how he fights and his legacy when i'm sure more than half of these morons haven't watched many of his fights is just plain retarted. with floyd disrespecting his opponents, it's his way of staying ahead of everybody else. think about it, i'm not saying he has to talk the way he does, but he's made no secrets about wanting to be better than every fighter in history, and his dominance in the professional sport of boxing breathes the way it does with his trash talking and claiming so and so is one dimensional and a c class fighter. it's what works for him, and he's not the only fighter whose talked trash, because roy jones talked ****, james toney talked ****, and they're regarded as heros to many people on here, because of their styles and skills that make their styles up, but pretty boy, who is more polished than both of them, and overall, a better fighter than them both imo is regarded as a ****y piece of ****? what the **** is that ****? i mean, there's nothing wrong with being respectful to your opponents, but it's competiton, floyd talks ****, yet, he trains like a madman, so he takes no opponent lightly at all, and he always gives them respect after the fight. they have to earn his respect witrh their fight game by fighting a tough fight against him. that's just how he is, and he's smart for being this way. not only is he making his name bigger, whether it's positive or negative, but he's putting pressure on himself to perform at a higher level seeing how people expect him to back his words up, or seeing how people want him to lose and get knocked the hell out. it makes him that more dangerous and work that much harder. it's a smart tactic for his legacy in the sport that bred him.

            he also gets into his opponent's head by doing this. he can win the fight at the press conference by intimidating his opponent or throwing them off of their game. yet, his opponent's outside issues are rarely showcased like floyd's are. his personal issues with his children's mothers are made known and his club issues, and when oscar is looked at like a ****ing king and all american good guy, when oscar is dressing up like a woman or cheating on his wife with women in america it makes me mad. this gets me ticked off, but with all of this on the table, it only makes floyd perform better in the face of this adversity and no matter who's booing the **** out of him or cheering for him, which many don't cheer for him, but oh well, he still performs like a true champion in that ring. he still domiantes opponents who are in their hometown or very popular because of their looks like de la hoya. it doesn't matter, floyd is smart enough to know that popularity doesn't win fights, unless the judges are corrupt of course, but usually popularity don't win you fights. floyd is fighting his haters, critics, and more when he's in that win, and he's also proving to himself that he can be the best at doing this, which is certainly is, so this is why he is not only the top welterweight in boxing, but th ebest fighter in any weight class in boxing, so deal with it people.
            Lets get one thing straight...if it isn't obvious to you that those pictures are photoshopped then you need glasses. That being said...you need to stop defacing the pride and name of someone just by a hunch that those pictures are real...because if you don't know for 100% then its not fair. That being said, I do not feel he has really dominated all of his recent opponents...since you mention de la hoya...Alot of people feel, myself included that pbf back peddled the majority of the fight and just caught punches from de la hoya.

            But, if there is anything to question about PBF...it's his toughness. Can you honestly tell me that you feel as though Floyd Mayweather would go through a gatti v ward type fight...or a castillo v corales type fight or a barrera v morales type fight. I doubt that he would....you can tell just by the style in which he fights that he hates getting tagged.

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            • SkillspayBills
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              #96
              Originally posted by Azteca
              That never happened. You are obviously confusing me with someone else. Check the last couple pages of my threads and tell me those threads are not thought-provoking.
              I know for a fact it was you, with the Carlos Monzon avi and all. Your first few posts were laced with ignoran and incorrect facts. I have admitted you have improved recently and I can say that I respect your knowledge. However, when you started you sounded like you knew ALOT less than you were putting on.

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              • Azteca
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                #97
                Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                I know for a fact it was you, with the Carlos Monzon avi and all. Your first few posts were laced with ignoran and incorrect facts. I have admitted you have improved recently and I can say that I respect your knowledge. However, when you started you sounded like you knew ALOT less than you were putting on.
                That's false. I stayed to myself and didn't cause any trouble.

                Take a look at my early threads.

                You talkin' ****, boy.

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                • pbftxrs316
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Facko
                  Lets get one thing straight...if it isn't obvious to you that those pictures are photoshopped then you need glasses. That being said...you need to stop defacing the pride and name of someone just by a hunch that those pictures are real...because if you don't know for 100% then its not fair. That being said, I do not feel he has really dominated all of his recent opponents...since you mention de la hoya...Alot of people feel, myself included that pbf back peddled the majority of the fight and just caught punches from de la hoya.

                  But, if there is anything to question about PBF...it's his toughness. Can you honestly tell me that you feel as though Floyd Mayweather would go through a gatti v ward type fight...or a castillo v corales type fight or a barrera v morales type fight. I doubt that he would....you can tell just by the style in which he fights that he hates getting tagged.
                  1st off, buddy boy i wear glasses, and maybe the pictures were photoshopped, and maybe they weren't, but you look kind of funny claiming that they were photoshopped only to claim that i don't know if they are 100% real, how does that make you look claiming that they were photoshopped? how do you really know?

                  and, mayweather did not backpeddle against oscar fool, he set up shots by utilizing the ring. also, how could he have back peddled when he was on the ropes many times in the fight blocking oscar's shots for the most part? yet, he controlled the pace of the fight and landed crisp punches on oscar's head and he won at least 8 rounds imo(floyd this is) in their fight,

                  and as far as floyd going to war like gatti, ward, castillo, coralles,or whoever, you don't know what he's capable of doing. and his style is not to get hit but hit, which is nothing bad at all.he's always been this way, claiming the less you get hit, the longer you last in the sport of boxing.

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                  • Jim Jeffries
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                    as far as floyd going to war like gatti, ward, castillo, coralles,or whoever, you don't know what he's capable of doing. and his style is not to get hit but hit, which is nothing bad at all.he's always been this way, claiming the less you get hit, the longer you last in the sport of boxing.
                    Then why has Floyd "retired" once already and is threatening to retire again?

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