Mayweather is NOT the top welterweight

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  • DA1CATAS
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    #31
    Originally posted by skilspaydabills
    They were?
    Who is that woman in your AVY... wow shes tight.

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    • warp1432
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      #32
      Margarito is the most dangerous fighter at 147 with an iron chin and devastating power.
      The most dangerous fighter in the divison shouldn't get almost shut out to a nobody (Rodney Jones)

      And it's not like he has THAT good of power. He just throws a lot of punches.

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      • ElGranLuchador
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        #33
        Originally posted by warp1432
        Exposed time and time again?

        You have Tszyu's fight, which yes was a massacare.

        Then you have Cotto's fight, which wasn't really an "exposure" just a defeat, that happened before that.

        You have Spinks, which he avenged that Loss in the second fight with a KO. So wasn't really exposed except for the Tszyu.

        And atleast Judah lost to good boxers. I mean who the **** were the people Margarito lost to besides Williams?
        dude u cant be serious about judah being better than margarito sure he lost to top fighters but still those defeats take a toll on u and judah will never be the same anyone with common sense knows that margarito is far more dangerous than judah
        and margarito lost a couple times earlier in his career but hes got 2 defeats in 10 years unlike judah who lost 3 of his last 5 fights

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        • eric maldonado
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          #34
          Originally posted by elgranluchadore
          the wbc/ring belt or is too subjective if jose armando santa cruz beats joel casamayor (wich he did) he becomes the best in the division no he doesnt
          fighting and beating the best welters makes u the best in the division and thats something mayweather hasnt done and will never do due to him already ducking margarito and cotto 2 of the most powerful welters
          and yes i knew cotto wasnt a champ but why couldnt floyd face him hes the most popular welter and still undefeated
          if floyd is not the best at 147 who is if floyd didn't beat the best than neither has williams cintron or cotto

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          • ElGranLuchador
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            #35
            Originally posted by warp1432
            The most dangerous fighter in the divison shouldn't get almost shut out to a nobody (Rodney Jones)

            And it's not like he has THAT good of power. He just throws a lot of punches.
            that was more than 10 years ago margarito got flaws hes not the best welter but one thing is for sure he is better than judah and baldomir

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            • ElGranLuchador
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              #36
              Originally posted by eric maldonado
              if floyd is not the best at 147 who is if floyd didn't beat the best than neither has williams cintron or cotto
              that was the point of cotto-mosley hatton-floyd winner face each other of course no one counted on floyd cowardice
              objectively speaking i think it should be cotto simply because his record at welter is more impressive than floyd

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              • eric maldonado
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                #37
                Originally posted by elgranluchadore
                that was the point of cotto-mosley hatton-floyd winner face each other of course no one counted on floyd cowardice
                objectively speaking i think it should be cotto simply because his record at welter is more impressive than floyd
                i guess i could respect that

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                • Brian13
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                  #38
                  Hatton isn't the most overrated fighter but I still think he will beat Floyd Mayweather because the way Mayweather is acting I believe he couldn't who Ricky Hatton is and what type of fighter he is but wait tiil he finds out on December 8

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                  • warp1432
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by elgranluchadore
                    that was more than 10 years ago margarito got flaws hes not the best welter but one thing is for sure he is better than judah and baldomir

                    Wait so let me get this straight?

                    Floyd isn't the best welter.
                    Neither was Judah.
                    Neither was Baldomir.
                    And neither was Margarito.

                    Cotto and Mosley don't count because they were in seperate divisons at the time.

                    So that leaves....no one.

                    Judah is obviously better then Margarito man. He's proved that by fighting better opponnets. That and just watch Judah. He's fast, a southpaw, fires off a high connection rate, and is taller then Margarito. He pretty much has that in the bag.

                    Also Balodmir's last loss (minus Forrest and Floyd) was in 1998 so you can't bring that whole "Well Margarito last lost 10 years ago" crap. I'm actually not sure how Baldomir/Margarito would go down, it'd be a close fight. But I think Baldomir could pull it off because he has a better chin.

                    That and is pretty absurd how people give the whole "Ricky's moving up in weight so that doesn't count" If floyd would move down to 140 then it would be, "Floyd is moving down in weight to advoid higher competiton at 140."

                    Then if Floyd decided to fight Mosley insted of Hatton it would be "Oh Floyd is picking the oldest guy"

                    And then if he finally decided to fight Cotto before Mosley and Hatton it would be "Well Cotto only beat Judah, and is obviously still advoiding Mosley and Hatton."

                    There can be negatives in all of them.

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                    • Tobi.G
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Tuggers1986
                      Hatton is the most overrated boxer of the past 10 years yet he has a better resume than margarito who you mentioned.

                      Explain that??
                      I dont even think Hatton is that overrated..........besides the U.K.

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