Who else thinks Guzman would make PAC look silly?

[Papa Ace]

I just don't see how PAC could beat him. he is too one dimensional for Guzman. PAC would look bad in this one. Guzman by UD.

If you think Pacquiao is STILL one-dimensional then I guess thats the silly part Yes Guzman could give trouble to Pacquiao with his speed but i think Manny has developed his arsenal for winning rounds. Running in circles and jabbing cant make Guzman win.

[beanstalk]

what can Marquez do that Guzman can't?

how about counterpunch and still win by KO? How about better overall skills? How about having heavy hands. Marquez will hurt you while being slick. He did that to Pac and almost won.

In a fight b/w Guzman and Pac, I am almost sure those close rounds or dancing rounds would go Pac's way, unless you hurt him like what Marquez did.

Anybody can be faster if you just intend to PAT your opponent.

About one punch KO for PAC? there was this undefeated mexican guy who chicken danced with one punch and an australian, I forgot their names. Just find the videos.

[slicksouthpaw16]

[QUOTE=beanstalk;2858189]how about counterpunch and still win by KO?How about better overall skills? How about having heavy hands. Marquez will hurt you while being slick. He did that to Pac and almost won.

In a fight b/w Guzman and Pac, I am almost sure those close rounds or dancing rounds would go Pac's way, unless you hurt him like what Marquez did.

Anybody can be faster if you just intend to PAT your opponent.About one punch KO for PAC? there was this undefeated mexican guy who chicken danced with one punch and an australian, I forgot their names. Just find the videos.[/QUOTE]

who cares if you get a knockout? as long as you get the win, nothing else matters. and give me a QUALITY FIGHTER THAT PAC HAS KNOCKED OUT WITH ONE PUNCH i don't care about some weak group of fighters he knocked out early in his carreer. if they don't have a good name or have not been ranked top 10 in the division, it don't matter.

[slicksouthpaw16]

how about counterpunch and still win by KO? How about better overall skills? How about having heavy hands. Marquez will hurt you while being slick. He did that to Pac and almost won.

In a fight b/w Guzman and Pac, I am almost sure those close rounds or dancing rounds would go Pac's way, unless you hurt him like what Marquez did.

Anybody can be faster if you just intend to PAT your opponent.

About one punch KO for PAC? there was this undefeated mexican guy who chicken danced with one punch and an australian, I forgot their names. Just find the videos.

If you think Pacquiao is STILL one-dimensional then I guess thats the silly part Yes Guzman could give trouble to Pacquiao with his speed but i think Manny has developed his arsenal for winning rounds. Running in circles and jabbing cant make Guzman win.

im not repeating myself, go look back at my other posts for my response for this post. people are saying the same thing you are.

[slicksouthpaw16]

The presumption upon which the statement that Guzman will make Pacquiao "look silly" appears to be that Pacquiao will mindlessly rush in round after round and Guzman will simply slip and slide and potshot.

I think that is a silly presumption.

In the early rounds against Barrios and Soto, Guzman engaged. And if one looks further back in Guzman's career at Featherweight and Jr. Light, that's how he has been managing his fights. He tries to pile up points in the early rounds by engaging his opponents using his advantage in handspeed, takes a breather somewhere in the 7th and 8th, then, relies on his defensive skills (mainly by keeping out of range) to finish the fight ahead on the scorecards.

This is a fight strategy that cannot work against more accurate, quick and powerful punchers like Pacquiao and Marquez.

Marquez will simply out-counter Guzman in the early rounds and lead on points (if Guzman's chin holds up). Guzman may find himself doing the catch-up in the middle to late rounds. He won't be able to do much running then.

Pacquiao has quick hands-- a lot quicker than both Barrios and Soto who never caught Guzman flush.

Pacquiao will have a lot of chances in catching Guzman early and test the chin. Contrary to popular perception, Pacquiao is not easy to hit.
A cursory look at the fight stats will bear this out; even that fight that he lost to Morales.

Furthermore, if Pacquiao's last fight is made an indication of the way he can fight in the future, it does not seem to me like he will mindlessly flail away at Guzman. He didn't against Barrera and won that fight going away. So much for a one-dimensional Pacquiao.

I think Pacquiao has learned much since the first Marquez fight (I said "first" because I am one of those who are fervently hoping for a second). I think we have a lot more to learn about Pacquiao if we think he's still the Pacquiao of three years ago.

My take is that:

There is a better than fair possibility that a Pacquiao-Guzman fight won't be a classic meeting between a slugger and a boxer. It can turn out to be the most boring fight Pacquiao has ever been in. If Guzman refuses to engage, Pacquiao may do so as well.

On the other hand, if Guzman follows his usual fight script and engages in the early rounds, it may feature among the most exciting exchanges seen atop the ring.

Or it can end early.

Either way, it won't be silly.

again, Guzman would make PAC look silly, its just the wrong style for PAC. and im not even responding to all of that stuff you wrote. it would just be a waste of time. there is no convining people who are stuck in their own opinion. just look at what Crillz wrote. he explained everything perfect.

[slicksouthpaw16]

THIS VIDEO IS FOR ANYONE THAT THINKS GUZMAN WOULDN"T MAKE PAC LOOK SILLY. LOL
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[Matt Marvelous]

Oh SNAP Batman got his groove back!!

[Papa Ace]

again, Guzman would make PAC look silly, its just the wrong style for PAC. and im not even responding to all of that stuff you wrote. it would just be a waste of time. there is no convining people who are stuck in their own opinion. just look at what Crillz wrote. he explained everything perfect.

Thats why this is a forum. it has to be an exchange of opinions, whether agreeable or not. if the posters voice their opinion then its their take. you dont put out a thread in a "forum" on the purpose of making a following or convincing. that would be silly.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Thats why this is a forum. it has to be an exchange of opinions, whether agreeable or not. if the posters voice their opinion then its their take. you dont put out a thread in a "forum" on the purpose of making a following or convincing. that would be silly.

ok and seriously, here's my response,

[Papa Ace]

ok and seriously, here's my response,

nice alt crillz.. youre really a points whore