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  • AntonTheMeh
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    #71
    Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
    All this while you have a giant banner of Trinidad on yours...lol. Unbelievable
    it was done by a mexican for your info,and as i've stated before,i've got maybe top six top fighters and 2 are mexican,juan diaz and de leon[pavlik cotto calderon and calzaghe the others]
    you see me rooting for collazo to get a title shot?he barely lost to ricky lost to mosley with a broken hand darling.he's in the same spot as margo you don't see ricans up in arms about somebody ducking him.
    Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 11-13-2007, 05:52 PM.

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      #72
      Originally posted by guzi815
      Yo, you gotta be dillusional bro! COTTO doesn't Draw??? Listen man, I was there live at the Garden, they had to open up the rafters cause it was SOLD OUT!!! Ok, so if Mayweather won't fight Miguel Cotto cause "there's no money in it", but then, yet he is willing to fight Kermit Cintron or Paul Williams, in which Cotto fills more seats than both of them combined! go figure...
      GOOD PSOT!!!! I made this same point. It's a ****ing joke when he decides to fight either Williams or Cintron instead. I love when people question Cottos resume, and try to justify fighting either Williams or Cintron when there best competiton was Margarito which Floyd and all his fans called a bum in justifying him dancing around that fight, yet now they are both worthy all of a sudden that it is more conveiniant for him to fight the lesser opposition. (Williams won and Cintron lost-yet he's worthy all of a sudden if he beats the man that beat Marg and was knocked out by Marg himself but that makes them worthy)

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      • MaYaN_SuN
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        #73
        You just went out of your way to post a story of an excuse on why one fighter shouldn't face a fellow undefeated prospect. You can't be ****in serious...Not only that but holy **** @ "above average speed/power." And I'm almost positive that MSG has been filled with people thanks to Cotto. It wasn't Judah or Mosley that filled that arena.

        This post along with all of VLAD_OWNS and VIVA_MEXICO's posts should be moved to the vault of dumb ****s.




        First he doesnt need Antonio Margarito, now he doesn't need Cotto :1lol:

        I seriously hope for Cotto's sake that Mayweather doesn't try to dodge em.

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        • quntel
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          #74
          THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

          Floyd already does not get respect for non of his victories....
          So it will be the same with Cotto


          if floyd beats COTTO.. SO WHAT....He suppose to beat cotto he is P4P the best fighter in this generation....
          AND after he beats COTTO you cotto nuthuggers will say well..............
          "HE CANT BEAT WHOEVER YOU LIKE AT THE MOMENT"

          THEY IS NO PPV IN COTTO THATS WHY HE PICK HATTON...

          "COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"



          All the Other PPV floyd is not in:
          MOSLEY VS. COTTO probably 300,000 PPV

          Vargas vs. May : Probably 150,000 PPV

          Hopkins vs. Wright = they did 300,000 PPV
          (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

          Pacman vs. Barrera 2 =they did 350,000
          (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

          JMM vs MAB = They Did 225,000 PPV BUYS
          (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)


          Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 PPV BUYS
          Cotto suppose to be ABLE TO sold out ****...
          (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)
          or have a bigger fan base than floyd...where are they at..??

          "COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"
          NUMBER DONT LIE..


          This what Floyd means when he says their is no money in cotto...


          Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

          Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
          (http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

          Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
          (http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

          Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
          (http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

          WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

          YOU MEAN TO tell me
          Cotto vs. Judah
          Hopkins vs. Wright
          JMM VS. MAB

          is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"


          Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto




          Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
          (4TH ppv)
          (http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

          Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
          Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....
          Baldomir : $16.3 million
          Judah: 15.7 million
          Gatti: 15. 3 Million
          De La hoya: $120.0 million

          Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
          Totol Money: 57.4 Million
          1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
          2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
          3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
          4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

          And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....

          Floyd still Wins...

          After all those STATS:
          what the hell you think he is going to do with HATTON....

          You mean to tell me AFTER COMING OFF A 2 MILLION PPV with Oscar PPV that Floyd is not at least going to DO 900,000 ppv is Crazy



          This PPV is not Going Under 900,00 PPV
          Last edited by quntel; 11-13-2007, 06:44 PM.

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            #75
            I think Floyd is gonna hafta fight Cotto if he beats Ricky eventually. This isn't Margarito we're talking about, Cotto is a big name and may pose a threat and if Floyd doesn't fight him it will raise much criticism.

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            • guzi815
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              #76
              Originally posted by quntel
              THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

              Floyd already does not get respect for non of his victories....
              So it will be the same with Cotto


              if floyd beats COTTO.. SO WHAT....He suppose to beat cotto he is P4P the best fighter in this generation....
              AND after he beats COTTO you cotto nuthuggers will say well..............
              "HE CANT BEAT WHOEVER YOU LIKE AT THE MOMENT"

              THEY IS NO PPV IN COTTO THATS WHY HE PICK HATTON...

              "COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"



              All the Other PPV floyd is not in:
              MOSLEY VS. COTTO probably 300,000 PPV

              Vargas vs. May : Probably 150,000 PPV

              Hopkins vs. Wright = they did 300,000 PPV
              (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

              Pacman vs. Barrera 2 =they did 350,000
              (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

              JMM vs MAB = They Did 225,000 PPV BUYS
              (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)


              Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 PPV BUYS
              Cotto suppose to be ABLE TO sold out ****...
              (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)
              or have a bigger fan base than floyd...where are they at..??

              "COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"
              NUMBER DONT LIE..


              This what Floyd means when he says their is no money in cotto...


              Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

              Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
              (http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

              Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
              (http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

              Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
              (http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

              WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

              YOU MEAN TO tell me
              Cotto vs. Judah
              Hopkins vs. Wright
              JMM VS. MAB

              is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"


              Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto




              Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
              (4TH ppv)
              (http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

              Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
              Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....
              Baldomir : $16.3 million
              Judah: 15.7 million
              Gatti: 15. 3 Million
              De La hoya: $120.0 million

              Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
              Totol Money: 57.4 Million
              1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
              2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
              3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
              4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

              And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....

              Floyd still Wins...

              After all those STATS:
              what the hell you think he is going to do with HATTON....

              You mean to tell me AFTER COMING OFF A 2 MILLION PPV with Oscar PPV that Floyd is not at least going to DO 900,000 ppv is Crazy



              This PPV is not Going Under 900,00 PPV
              ay, Quntel, check this out, you went of your way to get all those stats, that's alot of research, and i got nothing but respect for you bro. but check it....the REAL reason Floyd Mayweather don't get enough respect as you mentioned earlier, is simple.....

              "When Mayweather fights someone who IS "NOT" past their prime, people will see him as a "take-on-anybody' fighter. That's is the simple truth, and I never said anything negative towards Mayweather. With that said...lets stop all the "there-ain't-no-money-in-it" and fight with somebody that comes to fight.

              Bring on Cotto!

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              • Horus
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                #77
                Originally posted by boxing_pundit85
                Cotto doesn't draw, as evidenced by his ppv numbers for judah and mosley. He has no charisma and is shy around his own fans. He has slightly above average speed, and slightly above average power, and an average chin at best. in short he is a slightly above average fighter. People dont pay 50$ to see his caliber of fighter.
                He would have lost to Judah had he not intentionally hit him low twice, imo he should have been dq'ed because of the blatant intent of these punches. for people saying PBF has to fight him, cmon, are you serious. what has cotto done to warrant a fight against the #1 pfp fighter in the world? beat judah by cheating, which he admitted to, getting a draw against a 36 year old fighter which could have gone either way. and he beat a bunch of scrubs, big deal, beat a legit opponent impressively and we will talk. fyi, this wont happen, cotto is a top 8 guy in the division, that is it. once he starts fighting the best in the division he will not win 1/2 of his fights.
                IN SHORT NO ONE IS PAYING TO SEE PBF BUT ON A BOXING CLINIC AGAINST A SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE DRONE OF A FIGHTER. floyd might as well give hatton a rematch after schooling him and make another 15-20 mil. he wont come close to 10 agaisnt cotto, an average fighter with no charisma with a fan base that doesn't/ cant afford to see his fights.
                LMAO.....

                Funny ****

                Cotto Fans WILL BUY A fLOYD FIGHT bEFORE THEY will buy a Cotto Fight..
                Lmao...

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                • HotSizzle
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by quntel
                  THEY IS NO MONEY IN COTTO !

                  Floyd already does not get respect for non of his victories....
                  So it will be the same with Cotto


                  if floyd beats COTTO.. SO WHAT....He suppose to beat cotto he is P4P the best fighter in this generation....
                  AND after he beats COTTO you cotto nuthuggers will say well..............
                  "HE CANT BEAT WHOEVER YOU LIKE AT THE MOMENT"

                  THEY IS NO PPV IN COTTO THATS WHY HE PICK HATTON...

                  "COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"



                  All the Other PPV floyd is not in:
                  MOSLEY VS. COTTO probably 300,000 PPV

                  Vargas vs. May : Probably 150,000 PPV

                  Hopkins vs. Wright = they did 300,000 PPV
                  (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

                  Pacman vs. Barrera 2 =they did 350,000
                  (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)

                  JMM vs MAB = They Did 225,000 PPV BUYS
                  (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)


                  Cotto vs. Judah = 225,000 PPV BUYS
                  Cotto suppose to be ABLE TO sold out ****...
                  (http://www.******************.com/articles.php?id=2933)
                  or have a bigger fan base than floyd...where are they at..??

                  "COTTO FANS BASE DOES NOT BRING THE REAL MONEY WHICH IS PPV"
                  NUMBER DONT LIE..


                  This what Floyd means when he says their is no money in cotto...


                  Floyd P.PV fights oNLY HAD 4 PPV fights

                  Floyd did 350,000 with Judah (2ND PPV)
                  (http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Chee/Chee0413c06.htm)

                  Floyd vs. Gatti = 340,000 PPV (1sT ppv)
                  (http://boxing.about.com/b/2005/07/01...pv-success.htm)

                  Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir = 325,000 PPV buys(3Rd PPV)
                  (http://www.*********.com/*********_2...VefLFmoxo.html)

                  WHO THE **** sells 325,000 PPV FIGHTING Carlos Baldomir ?

                  YOU MEAN TO tell me
                  Cotto vs. Judah
                  Hopkins vs. Wright
                  JMM VS. MAB

                  is less interesting THEN "Floyd vs . Carlos Baldomir"


                  Carlos badlomir has less personality and Fan base than Miguel Cotto




                  Floyd vs. Oscar De La Hoya = 2.15 Million PPV buys
                  (4TH ppv)
                  (http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/payperview.htm)

                  Floyd PPV TOTAL Money after 4 PPV= 167 million (WONT BE TOP)
                  Out of In any fighter in history 1st four PPV Floyd is the best....
                  Baldomir : $16.3 million
                  Judah: 15.7 million
                  Gatti: 15. 3 Million
                  De La hoya: $120.0 million

                  Oscar De La Hoya First 4 PPV Total Money
                  Totol Money: 57.4 Million
                  1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
                  2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
                  3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
                  4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million

                  And if you take away the fourth PPV fight for both OSCAR AND FLOYD ....

                  Floyd still Wins...

                  After all those STATS:
                  what the hell you think he is going to do with HATTON....

                  You mean to tell me AFTER COMING OFF A 2 MILLION PPV with Oscar PPV that Floyd is not at least going to DO 900,000 ppv is Crazy



                  This PPV is not Going Under 900,00 PPV
                  Dam this is plain and basic common sense on why floyd is not picking cotto.

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                  • VERSION1 (V1)
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by warp1432
                    I do. And screw you, I may like Floyd more and hell I think Mosley might have won a close fight last night, but Cotto is a great fighter.

                    The only reason Floyd doesn't want to fight Cotto is that he is promoted by Arum. That's it. If cotto was under golden boy, he'd take the fight right away.
                    agreed 100%

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                    • Greatwhitehope
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by boxing_pundit85
                      Cotto doesn't draw, as evidenced by his ppv numbers for judah and mosley. He has no charisma and is shy around his own fans. He has slightly above average speed, and slightly above average power, and an average chin at best. in short he is a slightly above average fighter. People dont pay 50$ to see his caliber of fighter.
                      He would have lost to Judah had he not intentionally hit him low twice, imo he should have been dq'ed because of the blatant intent of these punches. for people saying PBF has to fight him, cmon, are you serious. what has cotto done to warrant a fight against the #1 pfp fighter in the world? beat judah by cheating, which he admitted to, getting a draw against a 36 year old fighter which could have gone either way. and he beat a bunch of scrubs, big deal, beat a legit opponent impressively and we will talk. fyi, this wont happen, cotto is a top 8 guy in the division, that is it. once he starts fighting the best in the division he will not win 1/2 of his fights.
                      IN SHORT NO ONE IS PAYING TO SEE PBF BUT ON A BOXING CLINIC AGAINST A SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE DRONE OF A FIGHTER. floyd might as well give hatton a rematch after schooling him and make another 15-20 mil. he wont come close to 10 agaisnt cotto, an average fighter with no charisma with a fan base that doesn't/ cant afford to see his fights.
                      I certainly would, would prove that Floyd is once and for all a class above Cotto's clearly the next best welterweight, he's undefeated and holds titles, there should be other things to worry about than just money.

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