why mayweather won't/doesn't need to fight cotto.

[2501]

i have nothing agaisnt cotto, hes not a bad guy. but people are getting excited over nothing. the truth is, hardly anyone has the skills and speed to give floyd a fight, the only fight of his career that wasnt relatively decisive was when he was injured durring training camp. The hatton fight will be somewhat interesting because hatton has some speed and is a very strong puncher. he could conceivably beat mayweahter(i give him about a 20% chance). cotto is too slow(relative to PBF) to compete with floyd and does not have the one punch knockout power to beat him with 1 or 2 lucky shots. there are 4 or 5 guys out there right now that would have a better chance against pbf. if this lackluster(he fought well but it was evident that his speed power and defense are not special, just good) win against ssm generates a ton of hype for cotto, and floyd could make a big payday, then take 70/30$ and put on the clinic. wont happen.... i understand if you are puerto rican and love cotto, hes a very good fighter and you should support him, but be realistic about his abilties. the ssm fight could have gone either way, as i said, and mosley in his prime makes cotto look silly.

stfu. your whole theory is bull**** because he, by your understanding, didnt have to fight Baldomir or Gatti, but he did. he said he would rather fight Paul Williams than Cotto? so what you and floyd are trying to tell us is that there would be more money in fighting Williams rather than Cotto? Who would you rather him fight? Calzaghe? you honestly think he would fight Calzaghe? you know he wont. Bottom line, Floyd will not fight anyone who he feels could damage his record, legacy or make him look bad in the ring.

[sonofisis]

Cotto doesn't draw, as evidenced by his ppv numbers for judah and mosley. He has no charisma and is shy around his own fans. He has slightly above average speed, and slightly above average power, and an average chin at best. in short he is a slightly above average fighter. People dont pay 50$ to see his caliber of fighter.
He would have lost to Judah had he not intentionally hit him low twice, imo he should have been dq'ed because of the blatant intent of these punches. for people saying PBF has to fight him, cmon, are you serious. what has cotto done to warrant a fight against the #1 pfp fighter in the world? beat judah by cheating, which he admitted to, getting a draw against a 36 year old fighter which could have gone either way. and he beat a bunch of scrubs, big deal, beat a legit opponent impressively and we will talk. fyi, this wont happen, cotto is a top 8 guy in the division, that is it. once he starts fighting the best in the division he will not win 1/2 of his fights.
IN SHORT NO ONE IS PAYING TO SEE PBF BUT ON A BOXING CLINIC AGAINST A SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE DRONE OF A FIGHTER. floyd might as well give hatton a rematch after schooling him and make another 15-20 mil. he wont come close to 10 agaisnt cotto, an average fighter with no charisma with a fan base that doesn't/ cant afford to see his fights.

Cotto is a ****ing robot with no personality. I actually DO like him as a fighter, but as a person, I don't even have an opinion on him because he's just creepy.


Interviewer: How do you feel coming into this fight?

Cotto (in his usual broken English): I train pretty hard. I feel pretty good and am coming to fight.

Interviewer: Cotto, so who would you like to fight next?

Cotto: I willing to fight whoever they put in front of me; I only come to fight.



^Before and after a fight, this is the most you'll ever get out of him. ****ing annoying..


For me, a Hatton win for Floyd is bigger than a Cotto win, seeing as how he never won a legitimate championship there at 140 and is now fighting the linear champ. Ultimately, he has absolutely nothing to prove after that, after already beating the best at 130, 135, and 147 (at that time.. before Cotto moved up, Williams came on the scene, and Mosley moved back down).. Cotto has a lot to prove, therefore needs someone like Mayweather more than someone like Mayweather needs him.

[Dorian]

jk

[old68]

Yeah because hatton is known for his awesome one-punch kayo power and when Mayweather fought Mosley in his Prime, oh wait I mean ODLH in his Prime, oh wait.... Arturo Gatti in his prime..... ah nevermind I didn't have anything to say in this thread either.

[frankpaganini]

Cotto doesn't draw, as evidenced by his ppv numbers for judah and mosley. He has no charisma and is shy around his own fans. He has slightly above average speed, and slightly above average power, and an average chin at best. in short he is a slightly above average fighter. People dont pay 50$ to see his caliber of fighter.
He would have lost to Judah had he not intentionally hit him low twice, imo he should have been dq'ed because of the blatant intent of these punches. for people saying PBF has to fight him, cmon, are you serious. what has cotto done to warrant a fight against the #1 pfp fighter in the world? beat judah by cheating, which he admitted to, getting a draw against a 36 year old fighter which could have gone either way. and he beat a bunch of scrubs, big deal, beat a legit opponent impressively and we will talk. fyi, this wont happen, cotto is a top 8 guy in the division, that is it. once he starts fighting the best in the division he will not win 1/2 of his fights.
IN SHORT NO ONE IS PAYING TO SEE PBF BUT ON A BOXING CLINIC AGAINST A SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE DRONE OF A FIGHTER. floyd might as well give hatton a rematch after schooling him and make another 15-20 mil. he wont come close to 10 agaisnt cotto, an average fighter with no charisma with a fan base that doesn't/ cant afford to see his fights.

1. there is nothing wrong with a good guy (mosley is a good guy)
2. he has better speed and power than you give him credit for...not to mention his handspeed as well
3. what about myself and all the other fans who paid $50 to watch the PPV of cotto/mosley...we arent "no one"...the numbers will do great...hatton isnt such a big name in the U.S. until the talks of fighting mayweather arose but its still occuring on december 8th.
4. he didnt intentionally hit judah low and said he didnt mean to and even apologized to judah
5. judah sold one of those punches...it landed on the waistband...i seen it.
6. cotto is currently the #1 contender in the welterweight division right now...thats why floyd has to fight him...how can you not fight thee best contender in your own division?
7. he did fight shane mosley who was right up in the top 3 of the welterweight division and i regard shane mosley highly (not just in the division but one of the best of this generation).
8. cotto showed some signs that he CAN box and i doubt mayweather will put on a boxing clinic with ricky hatton OR miguel cotto...MIGHT win...but it wont be in the fashion he beat arturo gatti or carlos baldy...

[sonofisis]

Yeah because hatton is known for his awesome one-punch kayo power and when Mayweather fought Mosley in his Prime, oh wait I mean ODLH in his Prime, oh wait.... Arturo Gatti in his prime..... ah nevermind I didn't have anything to say in this thread either.

Mayweather has fought enough people in their primes before he ever even thought about fighting Gatti to the point where he still makes Cotto look pedestrian.

I mean, Floyd has beaten how many top ten ranked fighters compared to Cotto?

I mean, Floyd has fought how many former world champions compared to Cotto?

I mean, Floyd has won how many belts compared to Cotto?

I mean, Floyd has won belts in how many weight divisions compared to Cotto?

I mean, Floyd has sold how much PPV compared to Cotto?

I mean, Floyd has how many more quality wins in general than Cotto, along with overall rounds, fights, and years compared to Cotto?



Bottom line.. Cotto is not on Floyd's level at all (at least not now), so please stop grasping at straws and stfu. Thanx..

[Jim Jeffries]

I just love the old "Floyd is so good, he doesn't have to fight the top fighters in his division to prove it." He fights a 6 loss in 45 fight washed up Gatti at 140, then a past it (4 losses in 60 fight, 35 year old) Mitchell, then a lost 2 of his last 6 Judah, then a 43 wins in 58 fight Baldomir, then a 2 losses in his last 4, 1 fight in 3 years promoter in De La Hoya, BUT he's too good to fight undefeated world champs in Cotto and Williams, man it's just too funny.

[sonofisis]

I just love the old "Floyd is so good, he doesn't have to fight the top fighters in his division to prove it."

Prove what? That he's a five division champion who was fighter of the year (1998) before Cotto was even thought of? The same guy who conquered the Welter Weight division before Cotto even won a real championship at 140? The same guy who just won a legit championship at 154? Same guy who's been at the top of the p4p list longer than Cotto's actual career?

And Floyd needs to prove something through this guy? ummmm, ok..

[Jim Jeffries]

Prove what? That he's a five division champion who was fighter of the year (1998) before Cotto was even thought of? The same guy who conquered the Welter Weight division before Cotto even won a real championship at 140? The same guy who just won a legit championship at 154? Same guy who's been at the top of the p4p list longer than Cotto's actual career?

And Floyd needs to prove something through this guy? ummmm, ok..

Hearns was a 5 division champ over a greater weight range, and Oscar was a 6 weight champ, what's your point. Mayweather is the one talking crap about unifying the division (something he has NEVER done.)

[mugeninfinity]

Quit Hating
Stop it already.. Don't hate on good fighters and try to depreciate their reputation/boxing abilities. Let me put this simple for you

Cotto beat Judah...
No ifs ands or buts.. You say he cheated. I say it was a (un-intentional) low blow. That happens in boxing, just like headbutts & anything else. Furthermore Judah complained about being fatigued by that punch however the ref was willing to allow Judah to rest for FIVE MINUTES, and Judah was not fatigued seeing as he used about 30 seconds of his given 5 minutes.

Cotto beat Mosley
No ifs ands or buts. It was a good and close fight. But the winner is the winner regardless of how close it was. You can lose by 1 point. But it's still a loss. Don't say "Oh if Mosley was younger..." exciting to think about but virtually impossible to determine who would win lol.

Floyd Mayweather Vs.
He is a good fighter. Cotto IS a good fighter. I want to see them fight. I don't care about the reasons of why Mayweathers group does not want him to fight.