Calzaghe: Verbal Assault

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  • moofo
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    #21
    Originally posted by sonofisis
    Cop out!! The point is that they were all smaller than Hagler, Calz didn't mention talent and accomplishment, because he'd of looked like an ass when emphasizing that these people were hall of famers. There is no differemce and whoever says there is, is a hypocrite Hagler fought a few Welter Weights on which his legacy is cemented. Hopkins did the same, though he also moved up in weight and beat the man at ligt heavy, so whatever people wanna spout about Hopkins, they need to spout about Hagler too, or just stfu and get off Hagler's nuts..
    Duran & Hearns continued to fight up to Light heavyweight.

    And I still haven't had an answer with regards to Tito & Oscar against Taylor , Miranda & Pavlik.

    Could tito & Oscar beat these guys?

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    • sonofisis
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      #22
      Originally posted by moofo
      Duran & Hearns continued to fight up to Light heavyweight.
      Where is Tito's next bout? Nuff said..

      And were they not smaller than Hagler or not? I'll answer for you: yes.. Calz' criticism was that Tito and Oscar were little men. Then what was Tommy, Duran, and Leonard? Calz didn't bring up talent, and at the end of the day, every single last one of these people are hall of famers and were super stars, which is why the fights happened as they moved up trying to be multi-division champs. We can argue that Tito was better than Oscar, that Leonard was better than Hearns, and that Duran was better than Tito, but it is useless, since they are ALL hall of famers, who these two middle weights crushed. End of story, and again, Nard also, unlike Hagler, moved up in weight.

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        #23
        Okay, I've got nothing against Joe Calzaghe I think he is a damn good fighter. But Tarver over the hill... That was a ****** ****ing statement. Look how old Hopkins was when he fought Tarver. If Tarver is over the hill then what is Hopkins....Or Calzaghe for that matter....

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          #24
          Not to mention that Hagler LOST to a little man, while Hopkins BEAT a big man. Not making any argument that Hopkins should be held in higher regard than Hagler, because definitely he shouldn't, but anyone who criticizes Hops, simply has to criticize Hagler, or they are just being disingenuous ..
          Last edited by sonofisis; 11-09-2007, 02:52 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by sonofisis
            Not to mention that Hagler LOST to a little man, while Hopkins BEAT a big man. Not making any argument that Hopkin's should be held in higher regard than Hagler, because definitely shouldn't, but anyone who criticizes Hops, simply has to criticize Hagler, or they are just being disingenuous ..
            Good post you will get good Karma from me.

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              #26
              Originally posted by abosworth
              Okay, I've got nothing against Joe Calzaghe I think he is a damn good fighter. But Tarver over the hill... That was a ****** ****ing statement. Look how old Hopkins was when he fought Tarver. If Tarver is over the hill then what is Hopkins....Or Calzaghe for that matter....
              Yes, Calzaghe was talking out of his ass with that statement. Plus Hops was older AND coming off a loss, with Tarver coming off another win against RJJ. Not to mention that B-Hop was the consensus under dog, so maybe Joe needs to do a bit more research.

              Originally posted by Ray Lewis Jr
              Good post you will get good Karma from me.
              Truth must be told.. Thanx..

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              • cupcrazy01
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                #27
                I don't like it when fighters disparage their potential or upcoming opponent, for the simple fact that they are minimizing their own victory if they win. It's so confusing.

                Mayweather belittling Gatti made no sense, because, as dominant as he was in that fight, he himself said Gatti was a C+ fighter, so by that logic, his win meant nothing.

                It's unfortunate Cal has to do that here with Hopkins. Bernard is a legend, and we could take ANY legend's resume and pick it apart to some degree with a critical eye.

                Then again, maybe he's just trying to get Bernard to sign on the dotted line, taking the Hatton approach to Floyd: keep dogging the guy until he gets mad enough to sign.

                I hope that's the case.

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                • moofo
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by sonofisis
                  Not to mention that Hagler LOST to a little man, while Hopkins BEAT a big man. Not making any argument that Hopkins should be held in higher regard than Hagler, because definitely he shouldn't, but anyone who criticizes Hops, simply has to criticize Hagler, or they are just being disingenuous ..
                  The loss to SRL was Debatable.
                  As for Hopkins beating a BIG MAN????
                  He was the same Size as Hopkins.
                  If you meant Tarver.

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                  • ИATAS
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                    #29
                    sonofisis, I'm glad to see there are some logical thinkers on this board, I was getting a bit worried

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                      #30
                      Regardless, if Hop were to beat Joe Calzaghe this would be bigger than any TWO of Hopkins previous wins put together. Hop has never fought anyone this good.

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