Calzaghe: Verbal Assault

**PeROxiDE** · 11-09-2007, 01:43 PM

Please tell me that you are not trying to say he is wrong. Only an idiot would disagree with what Joe has said. Compared to Hopkins, DLH and Trinidad WERE little guys, and Tarver was over the hill when Hopkins beat him. Unless the judging is horse****, Calzaghe wins this by either KO or VERY wide UD.

**ИATAS** · 11-09-2007, 01:48 PM

ODH weighed in at 156 and Hopkins weighed 155.
Felix Trinidad weighed in at 157 and Hopkins 158.

Tarver was considered at the time one of the best fighters P4P, and most people picked Tarver to win easily.

There is no comparison between Hopkins resume and Calzaghes; it's clear Hopkins has a far more impressive one, "little men" opponents or not.

Not to take anything away from Joe because he is a great fighter, but Kessler and lacey are really the only big names on his list.

**MightyMikeA** · 11-09-2007, 01:55 PM

Joe is right on the money with his assessment of the career fraud that is Bore-nard Slopkins. Why would Joe make these types of statements if they did not have some degree of validity to them. Everyone knows Bore-nard's career is based upon 3 things; his big mouth, his defenses against bums, and his wins over 2 super-stars whose best weights are 3 DIVISION BELOW Bore-nard's. It would be a cause for monumental glee if Bore-nard would have the balls to sign on the dotted line and square off against Joe.

Joe would simply abuse this fraudulent dirty-fighter. Bernard wishes he had a name like Mikkel Kessler on his resume who I believe is still lb 4 lb material regardless of losing to Joe. Bore-nard's only true challenge was a failed attempt at the great Roy Jones Jr. so he needs to shut his gapped-toothed mouth. Joe will retire this old man and lay a beat-down on him because god knows how bad this clown needs to be humbled.

**ИATAS** · 11-09-2007, 02:04 PM

The hate for Hopkins a living legend is crazy!

First off, the argument that Hopkins fought smaller fighters is invalid, because they had to make the weight didn't they? It's not as if Hopkins out-weighed them by 20 pounds and as I already posted, Hopkins weighed one less pound than ODH and one more pound than Trinidad.

If they truly were better than Hopkins they would have beat him, just like the "smaller" Floyd Mayweather beat the "bigger' ODH.

Second, No One has ever said that Hagler was only good because he beat smaller opponents (sugar ray and duran). Again, SRL and Duran had to make the same weight.

Third, these fighters CHOSE to fight Hopkins at that weight. Should Hagler/Bernard turned down the biggest fights of their lives because some critics would say "well they only beat smaller opponents"? LOL, I could only imagine Hagler saying, "I'm going to turn down this fight against Sugar Ray because I don't want to be critized for beating a smaller man."

Fourth, LOL at Kessler being a bigger name than Trinidad, Tarver, Oscar de la Hoya, Winky Wright!!

Fifth, who ****ing cares? Calzaghe/Hopkins are BOTH living legends and rather than arguing who has the better resume, we should all hope that they do eventually fight, as it would be great for the sport of boxing.

**PeROxiDE** · 11-09-2007, 02:11 PM

I wonder how this weight was put on? It was either more muscle than they can naturally carry or fat. Either one diminishes your boxing ability massively. When you bulk up you lose speed, stamina and if you bulk up badly you also lose power. Thats the case in point here, he beat naturally smaller men who had to put themselves at a major disadvantage just to make the weight. If it was easy to step the weight divisions every fool would be doing it. As for Kessler, no he wasnt a bigger name, but he was dangerous and fighting at his natural weight. The only real contenders Hopkins fought AT THEIR NATURAL WEIGHT were Taylor and RJJ, and he lost to both of them. Why do you think he fights people so much smaller and refuses fights with people the same size or bigger? Bernard is a bully who is about to get stood up to and find himself on his ass.

**ИATAS** · 11-09-2007, 02:13 PM

Which is why Mayweather lost to ODH when he stepped up in weight, or Hopkins losing to Tarver after he stepped up two weigh classes, etc.

Also, it's not like ODH was fighting at a lower weight previous to Hopkins, look for your self...

Oscar de la hoya weights prior to Hopkins:

156 against Hopkins.
160 against Strum.
154 against Mosely.
153� against Campas.
154 against Vargas.
154 against Castillejo.

**moofo** · 11-09-2007, 02:14 PM

Joe speaks the truth.
As for the weight game get real.
Did borenard weigh 158 on fight night?
B-Hype could have moved up early doors to chase RJJ or Joe.
He chose to stay where he knew what was good for him.
Answer me this....
In 50 years will people still be requesting his fights?

**PeROxiDE** · 11-09-2007, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by natas206

Which is why Mayweather lost to ODH when he stepped up in weight, or Hopkins losing to Tarver after he stepped up two weigh classes, etc.

At what point did I say it was impossible? You're trying to put words in my mouth to justify your rediculous arguement. Besides, Tarver was wll past his peak when he fought Hopkins.

**MightyMikeA** · 11-09-2007, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by natas206

The hate for Hopkins a living legend is crazy!

First off, the argument that Hopkins fought smaller fighters is invalid, because they had to make the weight didn't they? It's not as if Hopkins out-weighed them by 20 pounds and as I already posted, Hopkins weighed one less pound than ODH and one more pound than Trinidad.

Second, No One has ever said that Hagler was only good because he beat smaller opponents (sugar ray and duran). Again, SRL and Duran had to make the same weight.

Third, these fighters CHOSE to fight Hopkins at that weight. Should Hagler/Bernard turned down the biggest fights of their lives because some critics would say "well they only beat smaller opponents"? LOL, I could only imagine Hagler saying, "I'm going to turn down this fight against Sugar Ray because I don't want to be critized for beating a smaller man."

Fourth, LOL at Kessler being a bigger name than Trinidad, Tarver, Oscar de la Hoya, Winky Wright!!

Weigh-in weight means nothing. It is indisputable that Bernard is naturally the much, much bigger man than ODH (who looks like a bloated fat boy when he's above 160) and Tito who has the build of a stick with ****. These guys are naturally welterweights who had conquered their prime division and tried to make history by overreaching themselves into middleweight waters. Kind of like what RJJ did (who is no heavyweight himself) but only failed to do it like he did. Bore-nard is and has always been a light heavyweight. He even started his career at Light Heavy. Oscar started his career at 135 and Tito at 140...a huge contrast so don't try and feed me that weigh-in BS.

Bore-nard is no living legend, what has he done that is so "legendary" besides beating a division filled with bums for over a decade? He sat in that division and cowered while RJJ was the LHW king and Calzaghe was the head honcho at 168. Bore-nard knew he could never beat these two guys so he adopted this "gym rat" facade and took the reigns in a division with questionable opposition until the time was right to strike. He used his big, ****** mouth and developed "me against the world" hype to land a fight with a bloated Mexican and beat him. He fought RJJ in his prime at 27 years old and got schooled which was the only true challenge he has ever taken against an opponent equal to himself in size (besides a weight-drained and overrated Tarver).

Joe schools this fake-ass convicted perp at any point in their respective careers.

Calzaghe: Verbal Assault