Hopkins P4P ...Why?

[Dempsey's Fan]

Wow this is getting ******...Calzaghe is the undisputed SMW champ, that means hes going to fight SMWs. Hopkins, whos naturally a light heavy, drained himself to fight at MW, and was dominant there, until he was ousted, and has since been unable to regain any titles in the MW division, the division that has defined his career. JC has sought out the best SMWs aorund, and beaten young hungry undefeated champions. Hes dominated his division for a decade. You shouldnt fault the guy just because hes dominant, and hasnt moved up to conquer another division yet. JC has been doing exactly what champions should, proving beyond nay doubt that he rules his division, before moving up to face the best in the next division. If Hopkins wants a fight with JC, hell get it, and he could of had it at SMW years ago. It is not JCs fault this fight hasnt been made, thats nearly irrefutable. Well see in the next year what Hopkins and JC are made of, i suspect.

[Technical_Skill]

I've just said ..your logic is off..
Trindad and ODH...too small..
Winky.. too fat
Roy Jones he lost against........How does that count?
Tarver..good win....Not a great fighter...

I'm struggling to see your point...

It's that cherry picking again...

Done by many a nearly great fighter..

How's my logic off, you cant answer my question,

So lets pretend what your saying above is all true,

Who has calzaghe fought that is better than the names i listed, lets see the bigger and better names he has fought.

Can you name them? more than one? or you gonna dodge the question yet again?

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[Dempsey's Fan]

Technical skill-
Name three SWM fighters Calzaghe should of fought, but ducked. If you dont feel Calzaghes opposition is as credible as Nards, that says more about the quality of the SMW division than it does about the caliber of Calzaghes performance.

[Wiley Hyena]

I don't know, probably because Hopkins defended his title 20 times against decent comp while completely cleaning out the middle weight division (KOing a couple of HOFers in the process), then moving up and punishing the consensus lightweight champ and then another hall of famer. Maybe because Calzaghe's resume is littered with bums, I don't know.

That was then. This is now. No way should Bernard be top ten p4p in today's rankings. While he's still formidible with his outstanding defensive skills, Hopkins is way past his prime and his offense has virtually disappeared. No way is he top ten p4p in reality.

[Technical_Skill]

Technical skill-
Name three SWM fighters Calzaghe should of fought, but ducked. If you dont feel Calzaghes opposition is as credible as Nards, that says more about the quality of the SMW division than it does about the caliber of Calzaghes performance.

1) He should have fought roy jones, dont tell me Jones was afraid to fight him, but wasnt afriad of James Toney, i dont buy it.

2) He should have moved up time ago, Fights against Evans ashira and tocker pudwill dont make legacies.

Now tell me the names on calzaghe's list that are better than De la hoya, trinidad, tarver, winky wright and Roy Jones,

Name please, no excuses, or skirting around the issue, just names.

[CottoOverrated1]

Make my day.

Name me the fighters calzaghe has fought that are better than

Roy Jones Jr
Felix trinidad
Antonio Tarver
Winky Wright
Oscar De La Hoya

No bull**** explainations about weight, just give me the names.

hell, dont even forget Glen "Yuh Mon" Johnson. Besides the MW division is way more glamorous than the SMW division.

[CottoOverrated1]

Well, even if I go with the Hopkins history lesson, and agree that Hopkins has fought better opposition in the past..which I'm not totally happy to concede.(hold on, didn't he lose against Roy Jones?)....My point is...Why is he still there..
Losing twice against Taylor knocks you off the list period...

But He at least fought those guys. Dumb ass.

if Joe C ends up finishing with Kessler, Hopkins, Pavlik, and Chad Dawson, guess what? he might actually lose one or two of those fights, even if lets say he gets robbed. when you fight name after name after name after top competition, it is not totally shocking that you are not going to win every time out. quit riding them nuts so hard. Joey C is a beast and Hopkins is a monster. 5 years ago Hopkins would have made Joey C is *****. Now, Joey C would most likely win.

[CottoOverrated1]

I dunno, i think beating Libero Andrade will Cement his legacy, either that or Evans Ashira next, hopkins has been ducking these guys for ages, when is he gonna fight top guys like this?

I hope you're joking

[CottoOverrated1]

Names are all well and good on a CV but must be taken in context...

ODH may well be fighting at Welter weight in a future fight against Hatton....that makes him small....Do you really think ODH could beat Calzaghe...could he hell..

Same goes for Trinidad..Calzaghe would give him a good hiding...No doubt...

Tarver....since when was he the second best boxer in the sport...?

You can say list the names, but that is alittle simple, and I'd fancy Calzaghe against any of Hopkins opponents,...give me one who would beat him...
He'd also woop Hopkins ass as well..(Hopkins knows this and thats why he asked for $6million the day after $3million had been agreed, a few years back)

Anyway...Calzaghe would whoop Hopkins no matter how yu look at it so...he's higher up the P4P list and......lets just say Hopkins sadly is not on the list at all...

Simple really.

you are a ***ing idiot. of course thos guys arent going to beat calzaghe. thats like saying all of roy jones big wins wont beat wladmir klitschko. lets try to make sense here and not blindly ride somebody **** off into the sunset.

[Technical_Skill]

I hope you're joking

Yes i am, thing is some of these other guys are not.

Thats the problem.