Is a Hatton victory good for boxing?

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  • DIOS DOMINICANO
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    #41
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    Not hanging my hat on anything. Tszyu's record speaks for itself IMO. Regarding the issue of this thread, he was certainly one of the bright spots for boxing in a generally crappy era for boxing. Thank god for the lower weight classes. Welter is called the heartbeat of boxing and I tend to agree.
    Actually, no.

    While Oscar, Shane, Tito, etc were in big fights, Tszyu was never in a mega-fight.

    A redemptive fight with Cool Vince Phillips would have been big, but Zoo avoided that. Shane jumped from 135 to 147 to make big fights.

    KT was nowhere near the star of those other guys.

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      #42
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
      No, you didn't.

      But I can understand why you need to avoid the question. It doesn't support your position.

      Who has Floyd outweighed on fight night since JWW?
      Oh..that question. Simply put I don't know, but a re-read of the stats can answer the question. The bottom line is that it's irrelevant, IMO. Regarding the Hatton fight, I think its funny that you have said before that Floyd is the bigger man, that Hatton has fought weak competition, and that he is overrated (not p4p material). Now all of the sudden he's superman. Why the change, Dios?

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        #43
        Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
        If the best only fought the best, how do young fighters or prospects get a chance?

        What if Oscar never gave Shane, an unproven WW, a chance?
        thats not for me, you or anyone else to decide obviously if there was an elite level of fighters fighting each other then it would stagnate, champions fighting challengers who have no right to be challenging is just bad for the sport, theres too many belts and divisions, but at least recently the fights have been coming together that in in the majority we want to see.

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          #44
          Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
          First of all, I've met Mike Tyson on several occasions. He isn't 5'11".

          But I'm willing to concede a two inch difference.

          Here's the massive height difference between Floyd and Ricky:

          Quite a bit really, considering Floyd is hunched over to try and look him in the eye and Hatton has about an inch of hair over Floyd/

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            #45
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            Actually, no.

            While Oscar, Shane, Tito, etc were in big fights, Tszyu was never in a mega-fight.

            A redemptive fight with Cool Vince Phillips would have been big, but Zoo avoided that. Shane jumped from 135 to 147 to make big fights.

            KT was nowhere near the star of those other guys.
            Well, we will always disagree with that. One thing for sure, Floyd didn't want to fight Tszyu. That speaks volumes right there.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
              Floyd also told Ricky that he would butt**** him. You taking that as Gospel, too?

              Hatton and Graham have REPEATEDLY said that Floyd is smaller.
              no but theres a difference between the debatable and the obscene.

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                #47
                Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                Floyd also told Ricky that he would butt**** him. You taking that as Gospel, too?

                Hatton and Graham have REPEATEDLY said that Floyd is smaller.
                Hatton and Graham have REPEATEDLY said that Hatton is going to OWN Floyd, by your logic I guess they must be right.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                  Oh..that question. Simply put I don't know, but a re-read of the stats can answer the question. The bottom line is that it's irrelevant, IMO. Regarding the Hatton fight, I think its funny that you have said before that Floyd is the bigger man, that Hatton has fought weak competition, and that he is overrated (not p4p material). Now all of the sudden he's superman. Why the change, Dios?
                  saying that Hatton is the naturally bigger man is saying that he is superman?

                  Don't embarrass yourself.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    Well, we will always disagree with that. One thing for sure, Floyd didn't want to fight Tszyu. That speaks volumes right there.
                    Yeah. Other than Floyd calling Tszyu out constantly.

                    You would think that Tszyu would want to try to make a fight happen with a bigger star like Floyd.

                    I guess Zoo had other priorities.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                      Oh..that question. Simply put I don't know, but a re-read of the stats can answer the question. The bottom line is that it's irrelevant, IMO. Regarding the Hatton fight, I think its funny that you have said before that Floyd is the bigger man, that Hatton has fought weak competition, and that he is overrated (not p4p material). Now all of the sudden he's superman. Why the change, Dios?
                      Floyd fans already making excuses for the loss, lol. "But he was bigger."

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